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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 22 hours ago

Average convo with liberals when Ukraine comes up

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Average convo with liberals when Ukraine comes up

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 22 hours ago
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  • FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    There won’t be any resistance as there hasn’t been any when the Russian first attacked without declaring war in the first place. I remember in 2022 before the invasion: “Russia will raise its eyebrows and Ukraine will understand” “the Ukrainian and the russian are brotherly people and we will be saluted as liberators when we will march into Kiev”. How did it ended up for your heroes, tankies?

    Also, seeing Ukraine as a military outpost for the USA when no military bases where on their land but Poland was a few km away must be the funniest cope I’ve ever read. Please do go on, I really need some laughs

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      The people of Donetsk and Luhansk, who voted to join the Russian Federation, seem to be happy with the way the war is going. Kiev was ethnically cleansing them since 2014, after all, so that checks out. As for Ukraine being a glorified millitary outpost, again, it’s similar to Israel. Ukraine gets arms from NATO, is cozy with NATO, and is in general a highly millitarized country. Poland is also governed by the far-right, this isn’t the grand own you think it is. Europe since the end of World War II has been subservient to the US Empire, that isn’t new. What’s new is Europe’s demotion from vassal to periphery, which is an ongoing process accelerated in recent years.

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        Ah yes, the famous “free referendum” held under gunpoint, how could I forget??

        Also, can you cite any source for the “ethnic cleansing” being perpetrated by the Ukrainian against the russians since 2014 in the Donetsk and Luhansk? Because the UN from when russia was still sitting in the council reports something completely different…

        https://share.google/XaamDlq40m8hEDyOG

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          Here are some compiled by @[email protected]

          • https://www.sott.net/article/467441-Burned-alive-How-the-2014-Odessa-massacre-became-a-turning-point-for-Ukraine

          • https://21stcenturywire.com/2014/11/17/natos-nazis-ethnic-cleansing-their-opposition-in-east-ukraine/

          • https://sarahwestall.com/yes-its-true-evidence-of-genocide-crimes-against-humanity-towards-russians-in-ukraine/

          • https://commondreamsnews.com/the-donbass-russians-subject-to-unparalleled-ethnic-cleansing/

          • https://csegr.ru/discrimination-against-russians-in-ukraine-eng/

          • https://www.voltairenet.org/article184430.html

          • FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world
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            Are you able to cite sources who are not completely forgetful of the “green men” fighting against the Ukrainian state in eastern Ukraine before 2014 and being supported by put-it-in and the russian army? Because if not you should also be ok with israel when they say that Palestine does not exist and their land should be owned by israelis because the bible says they were there 2000 years ago… Are you a zionist as well perchance?

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              Are you denying the evidence of ethnic cleansing, or are you supporting the ethnic cleansing because ethnic Russians are victims? I’m anti-zionist and anti-Banderite.

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                I am denying the “evidences” you so poorly presented as, before and during 2014, it has been proved and confirmed by put-it-in himself that the Crimean, Donbass and Luhansk separatist militias were being funded by the russian state in order to try to undermine Ukraine sovereignty in those regions while also keeping the animosity between the russian and Ukrainian people alive. Any kind of analysis which does not consider this data can be simply seen as russia propaganda.

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                  Then prove and confirm it, all you’ve done is plug your ears while hurling racist and homophobic slurs.

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                    https://youtu.be/Ivkm9C8Qr_o

                    Do the words of put-it-in himself are proof enough for you, little tankie?

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