Rep. Haley Stevens (D-Mich.) filed articles of impeachment against Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Wednesday, accusing him of abusing the powers of his office and undermining public health, putting Americans’ lives at risk.

He “has got to go,” Stevens said in a video announcing the impeachment articles. In an accompanying press statement, she said Kennedy, who rose to prominence as an ardent anti-vaccine activist, “has turned his back on science, on public health, and on the American people—spreading conspiracies and lies, driving up costs, and putting lives at risk.” She called him the “biggest self-created threat to our health and safety.”

It is very unlikely that an impeachment push will gain traction in the Republican-controlled Congress. No other Democratic lawmakers are backing the articles.

  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    30
    arrow-down
    23
    ·
    1 day ago

    More evidence on the controlled opposition pile that will be completely ignored by the Dem guzzlers here.

        • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 hours ago

          No, they’re saying we need to be WAY more proactive before the primaries to replace the traditional corpo-dems with people that will be substantially more progressive, and substantially further left on the overton window. Those candidates need to win their primaries and fix the party that’s currently broken by the corpo-dems.

        • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          16
          ·
          edit-2
          1 day ago

          No the rest of the world is saying “VOTE IN A THIRD OPTION AS THE TWO YOU HAVE ARE ASS!”

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            15 hours ago

            And to them I say, “LEARN HOW THE FUCK ELECTIONS WORK IN THE US BEFORE TRYING TO LECTURE US”

            • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              9 hours ago

              WE DID LEARN! WE FIND IT NOT TO BE A DEMOCRACY! AND WHY ARE WE YELLING!

          • Soggy@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            16
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 day ago

            And we keep telling you that isn’t how our system is set up but you aren’t interested in understanding.

            • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              12 hours ago

              Canada has a similar system (whichever candidate recieves a plurality of the votes wins the seat in the region) and has 5 different parties in their government.

              • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                6 hours ago

                Westminster-style parliament is far less “winner takes all” than the US system though. We don’t even really have an executive branch in the sense that the US does, and we have many more levers that can be pulled to topple an abusive government - including by royal decree.

                In the US, if an official needs to be removed, they have to be impeached and convicted by their peers, after which they are removed and depending on what their position/home state/etc, they may leave a vacant seat or have a replacement appointed until the next elected. However in the case of the president, there is a clear line of succession, and it it virtually guaranteed that everyone in that line is ideologically aligned.

                In Canada, there is a recall process that is initiated by the voters as a petition, put to a vote by the people, and if successful, that person is immediately removed and a by-election is called.

                In the US, if the government can’t pass a budget, it shits itself and shuts down. In Canada, if the government can’t pass a budget, parliament is dissolved and there’s a new election - but everything else just keeps running based on the last successful budget.

                • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  4 hours ago

                  Sounds like the US has a shitty system and they should improve it. None of that is relevant to actually developing a third party however. There is 1 single president but (theoretically) needs support of the House and Senate. Recalls and budgets are irrelevant to the issue of only having 2 parties.

                  No, I was not encouraging people in the US to vote 3rd party in the last election. But now is an excellent time to start working on some 3rd party candidates for 2028.

                  • Soggy@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    3 hours ago

                    It is a shitty system but fixing it is even harder because Constitutional amendments need 38/50 states to agree.

              • Soggy@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                6 hours ago

                A Parliamentary system is pretty different from a Presidential one and we also don’t have a way to call a vote of no-confidence or otherwise change the government outside of the rigid election cycle, and Canada only really has two parties at the Federal level.

                • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  4 hours ago

                  Canada only really has two parties at the Federal level

                  The current as well as the past several elections have resulted in minority governments: The party with the most seats does not have enough votes on their own to pass legislation. They need a 3rd party to vote with them in order to get anything passed. The NDP has also been the official opposition in the past.

                  • Soggy@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    3 hours ago

                    There’s some movement in cities like New York and Seattle to elect 3rd parties to major positions but the problem isn’t really in urban areas. The Republican party is almost as much a religious sect as it is a political group and undoing the Christian Supremacy they’ve attached to is the kind of change that takes generations of education.

            • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              15 hours ago

              “No Way to Prevent This” Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.

              Maybe some day yankistanis will grow a fucking spine instead for using fear to trample on innocent lives.

              Until then downvote and hope to shrug your problems away. It will surely work one of these days.

              • Soggy@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                5 hours ago

                You’re right, every single voting adult in this country agreed on the current trajectory and aren’t being held captive by an electoral system designed to give unbalanced power to Southern slave states.

                • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  9 hours ago

                  It is the only world leader that is no longer a democracy that also tryes to shove its own “freedom” down our throats at every opportunity whose population thinks that they are an exception to every system of govenment.

                  Its like superearth but un ironic and very damaging.

            • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              12
              ·
              edit-2
              1 day ago

              And we keep telling you that it is your system that you all are responsable for and we don’t care that you use it as an excuse while dragging the rest of the world down with you.

              • Soggy@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                10
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 day ago

                My state has about as much political influence over Florida as Portugal has over Hungary. Being in the same union doesn’t mean that what they do has anything to do with me even if ours is dressed up as a single country.

              • III@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                10
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                1 day ago

                Exactly, as you said you don’t understand and you aren’t interested in understanding. Thanks for making that clear.

                • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  I have never said in any way shape or form that I don’t understand the terrible us system. I think you must be confusing me with someone else.

                  • FalcoLombardi1@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    1 day ago

                    Look, you did imply it. Whether you meant to or not. By answering “And we keep telling you that it is your system that you all are responsable for and we don’t care that you use it as an excuse while dragging the rest of the world down with you.” to “And we keep telling you that isn’t how our system is set up but you aren’t interested in understanding.” you are implying that the statement you are responding to is correct. It’s a ‘yes, and’ statement, like in improv comedy.

                • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  12 hours ago

                  Americans love their “France surrenders” memes, but when it comes to issues within their own country the response is always “there’s nothing we can do, why aren’t you fixing it for us?”

                • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  arrow-down
                  4
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  Not being an american, and active in my own community to make sure we never become even like you.

          • ameancow@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            19
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            1 day ago

            Yah and you painted the entire post with a broad brush already, you can’t pretend to be offended.

            • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              8
              ·
              1 day ago

              you painted the entire post with a broad brush already

              I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say. How would you categorize my representation of “the entire post”? Please use quotes if possible.

              • ameancow@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                10
                arrow-down
                6
                ·
                1 day ago

                More evidence on the controlled opposition pile that will be completely ignored by the Dem guzzlers here.

                This is just a weird, cynical take that makes you sound like the tankies who regularly escape .ml, where anyone who isn’t marching in an olive drab jumpsuit with a red star is a “dem loving liberal.”

                • jve@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  It’s cynical, sure.

                  If you’re not a cynic towards politicians, you’re kind of a dumbass.

                  Why do you think that the establishment Dems aren’t backing this impeachment?

                  • ameancow@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    1 day ago

                    It was cynicism towards people in the post even before reading people’s comments, it’s deliberately inflammatory and I call that stupid attention-seeking shit out when I see it.

                • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  arrow-down
                  6
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  Ok but that’s not what I said, so why make shit up? It hurts your feelings that much when people mention the DNC’s own actions?

                  • ameancow@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    7
                    arrow-down
                    5
                    ·
                    1 day ago

                    it hurts your feelings that much

                    Oh lord you’re one of them. Never mind, another for the list.

      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        23 hours ago

        Let’s turn this on its head then: what would be an acceptable way for me to provide any criticism whatsoever of a political party that doesn’t represent me well without being instantly called a *shuffles cards* Russian bot?

        • AlexLost@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          11 hours ago

          As if Russian bots were not just outted as major maga supporters. Do you live under a rock?! Maga is a psyop for m Russia to ruin America, and y’allkayda fell for it hook line and sinker

          • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            11 hours ago

            I didn’t fall for jack shit. You can criticize the bullshit useless DNC without wearing a red cap, you know.

            • AlexLost@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              5 hours ago

              You sure can, I was alluding to your “checks notes” as if that’s just some gotcha out of left field. You are free to criticize both parties, all parties or no parties. The fact you have this shit show because the other guy “checks notes” didn’t condemn Israel enough, unlike the guy that got in who is in bed with them and made the situation much worse, like everything he touches. Put your money where your mouth is or shut the hell up!

        • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          13 hours ago

          How about, “The system is broken in multiple ways, a list of which can be provided, and the behavior of most Democrats is merely a symptom or self-serving response to the state of that system”?

          • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            13 hours ago

            Yes all those DNC leaders are just innocent cogs in the system taking all their bribes that they just have to take.

            • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              12 hours ago

              So, are you saying that taking bribes isn’t in their self-interest, or that there are no repercussions from taking bribes which would be a flaw in the system? There are the first two items you can put on that list I was talking about.

              • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                12 hours ago

                So your logic is that politicians should always do something as long as it’s not illegal? That sounds quite MAGA of you…

                • ObliviousEnlightenment@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  12 hours ago

                  Not the commenter, but I’m guessing the logic is less should and more will. We live in a world where most elites are sociopaths attracted to power like moths to light, and will always try to do the maximum they think they can get away with to benefit themselves. Proper political systems don’t get rid of this because its a human nature thing, they weaponize it by organizing power structures to align those interests with sections of the people

                  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    12 hours ago

                    Agreed, so why can’t I criticize those people without Dem guzzlers blowing up my DMs calling me a Russian?

                • GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  12 hours ago

                  For someone who got so offended when someone supposedly put words in your mouth, you’re pretty eager to do the same. If you design your system to only work when altruism is your guiding factor, well, look around. And if there are no serious penalties for breaking the standards, well, again, look around. And if you think having a system like that isn’t going to attract people who are perfectly fine with screwing over the majority of the country for their own personal gain, guess what, we have a whole list of people who clearly have. If these don’t sound like problems with the system to you, at least you know what flavor the different colors of crayons are.

                  To put it succinctly, bad actors will abuse the system for their own personal gain. Whether it be a quarterback having a football slightly under pressure so he can throw it better or a politician buying and selling stocks based on the announcements or decisions they’re going to make in a few days, with no negative repercussions attached, then expecting anything less is a level of naivety I can’t hope to describe.

                  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    12 hours ago

                    But why do I have to vote for the bad actors and like them? Why can’t I criticize them without being called a Russian or Irianian or whatever?