• narwhal@mander.xyz
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    11 hours ago

    The people that try to equate fake genocide with real genocide are like the school staff punishing bully and victim alike. They are enabling the abuses. Also it must be deeply insulting to the real victims in gaza.

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        6 hours ago

        Where is the evidence? This article is an interview showing two people telling stories, one of which is selling a book, just like Yeonmi Park.
        I can too volunteer for an interview as I tell how Greenland is genociding left handed people. But nobody will ever want to pay me for that.

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            Genocides are real things, so it’s important we reliably identify them with factual evidence, not falling for atrocity propaganda. Incorrectly identifying something as genocide is irresponsible much like denying a case of genocide that is actually taking place.

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        It’s supposedly been a decade long genocide and yet still nobody has been able to present any evidence beyond uncorroborated and inconsistent testimonials from a single digit number of sources, filtered exclusively through right wing American NGOs.

        Meanwhile two years of genocide in Gaza produced an endless stream of audio-visual and forensic evidence so overwhelmingly undeniable that even governments participateing in the genocide have started to admit it.

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          Both things can be true, China has very tight control of media and they’re officially doing only stuff to terrorists. It’s literally impossible to hide carpet bombing apartment blocks anywhere in the world. Disappearing people into reeducation camps inside isn’t.

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            “During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

            -Michael Parenti

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            With the numbers that Adrian Zenz claims it’s impossible to hide for that long.

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            Both things can be true

            Anything can be true if you retreat into your mind palace of pure logic and reasoning

            Then you can literally just say whatever the fuck you want

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          Seriously.

          The time jordanlund came here to make an ass of himself about the “Uyghur genocide”: https://lemmy.ml/post/25050001/16268910

          A snippet from my response:

          (a) Show me the Uyghur bodies

          (b) Show me the serious bodily or mental harm

          (c) Show me the conditions calculated to bring about physical destruction in whole or in part

          (d) Show me the measures intended to prevent births within the group

          In accordance with China’s affirmative action policies towards ethnic minorities, all non-Han ethnic groups were subject to different laws and were usually allowed to have two children in urban areas, and three or four in rural areas.

          (e) Show me the forcible transfer of children from one group to another group

          All you have are a couple of photos of prisons, which proves nothing, and some garbage testimonies that we’ve debunked a thousand fucking times already.

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            It will 200% be declassified as a CIA operation in 40 years, but by then new accusations on new enemies of he US will be the new topic no one is able to question. If the US still exists by then lol

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            No shit the CIA isn’t mentioned. Do you think CIA agents would have been there at the scenes of these terrorist attacks? That’s not how any of this works.