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Does it predate class?

Photo is missing communism when there is no fence.

Open source always the best, well actually free software such as the GNU GPL is the best. Unless your main aim is to profit off it and not help the community I don’t see a reason not to fully open source it.

Stop. I’m about to go to bed soon.

Two sentences.

I stand corrected.

Because you are taking what’s not yours

But does the legal owner deserve to own it and profit off it? Again I ask you, do you understand the difference between what is ethical and what is legal.

It’s a game.

Piracy extends to all forms of media and software, not just games. I believe media is still incredibly important to a persons development. Media in all forms is a way to learn from other people and create a deeper understanding of how the world works. And taking that away from something because they don’t have the means to access it legally is not right. On top of this people deserve to have fun, and taking away peoples opportunity to have fun just because they don’t have the means to access it legally is also not right.

Yep exactly like tobaco, even more so with tobaco.

It’s easy to forget how much money a billion is when we hear the word billionair all the time. But when someone says 13 tons of gold and 23 tons of cash I’m like damn that is way too much for any 1 individual.

You specifically chose one sentence from my argument and anilised that while ignoring all of the context around it.

Do you understand there is a difference between what is legal and what is ethical and sometimes the law can be unfair or unethical?

I still dont see any issues in a victimless crime.

Sorry but Im not following your train of thought. Are you saying that the govenment providing housing, food and medical to people who need it, is not making a better place to live, it is just making a simpler place to live?

Of so what would make a place actually better to live?

Putting the blame on individuals is wrong. Obesity is a result of endless advertising and poor regulation due to capitalism.

Streets were made for people. As a person I will walk on the street however I chose.

theft definition

1. To take illegally, or without the owner’s permission, something owned by someone else without intending to return it.

It’s hard for me to say weather this definition encompasses piracy or not. Although I would err to the side of piracy not being stealing, since media isn’t physical.

Sometimes people can’t afford the extortionate game prices and thus wouldn’t be bying them no matter what.

In that case piracy is fully justified. If you wouldn’t have bought it if piracy wasn’t an option then I have no issues.

Bottom two reasons: yeah fuck DRM and capitalism. I didn’t say I’m against pirating, I just need to find the logical justification :)

If you can’t afford it then pirate it. There is no victim so I really see 0 reason not to.

“it’s not yours” is not valid. Who owns it then? Disney? Why does Disney deserve to own it any more than you? They didn’t put in any work to make it, the actors, directors, vfx artists, writers, producers, camera people, etc etc made the film. How come they don’t own any of it?

Work.

Oh I just fell for it.

I don’t follow this as a justification for piracy. Piracy isn’t stealing but, assuming if it was not possible to pirate you were going to pay for the game, you are still causing the person who owns the game to lose money they would have otherwise gained.

My justification is much simpler: capitalists suck, buying games supports capitalists so I’m keeping my money.

What if people commit suicide less in china and the DPRK because their lives are actually better? Is it not at least worth considering the possibility that people in these countries are happier? And what makes Chinese and Koreans simpler people than people from there capitalist counterparts, I think all humans are smart and complex individuals with deep, emotional personalities.

As well I think that people consider suicide due to feeling oppressed, unvalued and alienated. Therefore, the difference between societies with high and low suicide rates is a result of how well the society helps it’s lowest and most oppressed members.

I agree. I’m saying apartheid could be used to describe what many liberals believe is happening with Uighurs in Xinjiang, not what is actually going on.

Although even then I don’t think many people are arguing Uighurs are seperated legally in the way that you described anyway.