• mushroommunk@lemmy.today
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    13 hours ago

    So they’re going to take a page out of Zohran’s book and listen to others who aren’t billionaires right? Right? T.T

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      13 hours ago

      I mean…

      The head of the DNC said he wants a candidate like Mamdani, both in personality and policy, as the next presidential candidate. And he said that almost immediately after the primary.

      Like, Martin has always been about listening to the voters, he seems to agree with Mamdani’s principles, but it’s more that he knows most Dem voters do.

      He’s not going to put a finger on the scale for anyone, so yeah…

      In a fair fight why do you think we won’t see someone like Mamdani? Are you just underestimating how biased the DNC was for the last decade that an equal playing field doesn’t feel like enough?

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        I’ll believe it when I see it.

        I’ll never forgive the DNC for forcing Hillary or Kamala. If we had competent leadership who picked the candidate people actually wanted we never would have ended up with trump.

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          I’ll never forgive the DNC for forcing Hillary or Kamala

          This is like if AOC gets elected president, and you act like she’s trump, and you say you can’t forgive her for trump’s executive orders …

          You fundamentally don’t understand what “the DNC” is.

          I’ve been bitching about them for 30 years. Because we’ve had 30 years of biased neoliberal chairs.

          I’m not bitching now, because we got someone who just ran a party without bias for a decade, even if you just heard his name today

          Ignorance of a person’s track record doesn’t mean they never ran a mile

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            I know Bernie should have won in 2016 but Byzantine rules put in place by people who gargle billionaire cock got in the way.

            I know that Kamala was hand picked without a primary.

            Idk it feels like you’re ok with sucking up to controlled opposition so you can get your smuggies in.

            I don’t give a shit about stroking my ego, I give a shit about progressing leftism in America and those two candidates were dog shit establishment picks that flew on the face of what people actually want.

            I bet you’re disappointed Cuomo lost

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              I don’t give a shit about stroking my ego, I give a shit about progressing leftism in America

              Then stop turning people off the Dem party, and start getting people “as left as you” to get in the mindset of voting in the Dem primary…

              It’s not going to be easy, because like we’ve both been saying, the prior DNC chairs were biased neoliberal pieces of shit.

              But…

              Even if the new chair still was, wed still want people to vote in the Dem primary. If you feel the resulting candidate isn’t left enough, don’t vote for them in the general.

              But we fucking need everyone in the primary. Because if primary turnout is depressed, a neoliberal like Newsom could sneak thru, and if he becomes president he will 100% appoint a biased neoliberal as chair.

              No one is trying to get you to hold your nose in the general.

              Just trying to get you to vote in the primary to help a progressive get the nomination.

              What is so wrong about that?

              What do you disagree with?

              Because there’s going to be a shit ton of nefarious accounts doing just what you are soon, and I don’t want innocent people lumped in with that because it will divide the party, which again is what neoliberals and trump want.

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                Nah you trying to say that my grievances aren’t real or valid is the kind of shit that turns people off the Dem party.

                I’ve already stated my issues clearly, you’re just asking for an alternative wording so you can play semantic games.

                You can’t thought police your way to winning people over, this shit is why we keep fucking losing.

                Maybe you should try listening instead of regurgitating the party lines

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                  Nah you trying to say that my grievances aren’t real or valid

                  I haven’t said that at all…

                  I’ve explicitly agreed with you multiple times about prior DNC chairs…

                  Can you just tell me why you don’t want to vote in the Dem primary?

                  Because I legitimately don’t understand why people are acting like that’s worthless

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        Someone like Mamdani will be poised to win. But then the DNC will suddenly start pushing their candidate hard. They’ll decide that they need a candidate that can at last truly appeal to Republican voters, someone who has bipartisan political experience!

        Say hello to 2028 Democratic presidential nominee David Duke!

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          The craziest part is that the GOP would still run advertisements against him calling him a communist socialist fascist far left radical that wants to trans everybody and give all our money and jobs to those lazy freeloading illegals that he paid to vote for him.

          No, actually, the craziest part is that MAGA would believe them.

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            They could run against clones of themselfs and both sides call the other radical leftists

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      13 hours ago

      They’re gonna listen to the non-profits that are paid by the billionaires so it is just as corrupt but with an extra layer of obfuscation.