• Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk
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    4 days ago

    It wasn’t worse. They’re already at rock bottom. They’re literally lying to everyone and nothing is being done about it.

    I’d wager in two or three years, if nothing is done, the USA will cease to exist as a single, unified sovereign nation. If things keep going the way they’re going, a collapse is inevitable. A country made up with people so viciously opposed to reality cannot survive.

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      This is the Russian plan. It was never about Trump. It was about payback for break up of the USSR.

      United we stand, divided we fall.

      They’ve made us divided: not MAGA, but the gov’ts abroad who have exported the subversion of a debatable reality. Look at Vladislav Surkov’s strategies and how they are here, in America. You don’t debate your enemy, you debate the notion of truth.

      Trump 1 introduced the term “alternative facts,” and now these people sit in a room talking about an ideology as bad, not a formal group or person.

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        We’ve always been divided. Natives against colonizers. White against black. Slavers against abolitionists. Urban against rural. “Communists” against “real Americans.”

        Unity had always been a lie, a story, an excuse for a slow compromise that keepa the landowners ahead.

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            We aren’t even at “Registered Republican Bathroom Only” levels of division yet. (Incidentally, sundown towns still exist in this country)

            The Civil War never really ended because we never actually dealt with the traitors. We compromised on slavery and now we have more slaves than we ever did when a man could own another man, we just need to throw them in jail first. John Brown was right.

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      4 days ago

      You have your timeline wrong. They’re hellbent on stopping the midterms. As soon as protests, civil disobedience, and malicious compliance stop, we are locked into an authoritarian regime. You are here. Now.

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        There is still a far to optimistic view that there will be midterms that will totally change the landscape.

        The current path is clearly leading to the insurrection act being in full force well before midterms, and the midterms themselves will be a fraudulent sham, only to be “allowed” to pacify the common folk.

        The US does not even realize it already has the razzia’s the nazi’s held where people, innocent or not, are forcibly dragged from their homes and shot at in the streets.

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          As soon as Trump won, I knew we were on the trajectory of no more elections.

          They keep telling everyone exactly what they are doing and no one believes them. Trump flat out said this would be the last election for us. And no one believed him except his pending administration.

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              The more sensical approach is what Bernie has to say about it. Good talk with Trevor Noah this week.

              He gets deep on the corporate too. Did you know, at the top, it’s down to 3 equity groups owning everything, including most of our legislators? Blackrock is one of them.

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          It didn’t occur to me that they would lie about the results of the mid terms. It’s like NKs elections with only one option.

          I sincerely hope the smart ones get out to safety in another country.

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    Attorney General Pam Bondi jumped in to underline the message: “We’re not going to stop at just arresting people in the street.” No, they’re going to “take down the organization brick by brick” and “destroy the organization from top to bottom.”

    Antifa is very real. We fought the Nazis and we’re fighting Trump.

    But there’s no organization. No bricks.

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    No, insisted ICE Barbie — they are invaders. They are traitors. They are “just as dangerous” as MS-13, Isis and Hamas. Her priority is “making sure they never see the light again.” This, by the way, is the woman who grandstanded about “staring down” Antifa when footage showed it was actually a couple of photographers and a guy in a chicken suit.

    Edit: This livecam outside ICE in Portland is surprisingly owned by The Sinclair Group.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ucxfn-HY0

    Edit 2: Here is Chicago Wrigley Field: https://chicago-webcams.com/wrigley-field-webcam/

    Edit 3: Here is Chicago along the river: https://api.wetmet.net/widgets/stream/frame.php?uid=4f3e81c8ba5bf5a0ff1768c88aba1f8c

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      No Kings since 1776 protests on Saturday Oct 18 aren’t looking so bad now, are they?

      Europe keeps telling us our main problem is how small we go.

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        You’ve got the problem right there in your first sentence - Saturday Oct 18. It needs to last weeks/months until the regime is gone.

        A single day, where and when they allow (so they can ignore it) does nothing substantive. Prolonged and widespread unrest is the key.

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          Don’t forget DISRUPTIVE. Italy and France show us that making it not just “uncomfortable”, but actual hell to work with, works.

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            Didn’t the French just dump a load of trash in the roads to block traffic?

            Got to hand it to them, THAT is how you cause a disruption.

            That and the guillotine I guess.

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          Oh, be fair!! They had that other no kings protest just laaaast weekend…?

          No, wait, it was the weekend before that?
          No, wait, it was…it was definitely last month though!!
          Wait. I’ll go check…

          Oh, be fair!! They had that other no kings protest just last…nearly 4 fucking months ago!!
          Wow, every 3 to 4 months. I bet the orange child rapist and his Gestapo cronies are shaking in their boots about it!!!

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    I’ve stopped telling people I’m American. I just say Cascadian now. There’s at least a little distance there.

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    So we can expect more outrage from right-wingers come mid-terms, that’s nice, since they’ll be “rigged” according to this thing.

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    The US is in desperate need of regime change and the international community is silent.