The vast majority believe they are worse off now than under Socialism, which makes sense because the reintroduction of Capitalism resulted in skyrocketing rates of poverty, prostitution, drug abuse, homelessness, and an estimated 7 million excess deaths around the world.
I guess you can say Ukraine is now worse off than in the USSR, Back then they weren’t at war. The current situation isn’t exactly the fault of capitalism (or Ukranie for that matter)
It’s still well-documented and consistent. Socialism worked better than Capitalism. Plus, no press is ever “free,” either private interests dominate it or public interests do.
Private interests do align, but rarely. Meaning you have more chance at opposing narratives forming. Public is monovoiced. Without an opposing voice its data becomes suspect.
Private is controlled by large corporations, and often gets state funding. All press has bias. Really, you don’t have anything against the data other than you feel like it could be wrong.
I don’t trust it. Correct. I like multiple sources not controlled by one person. I like independent journalism. I think your data is bunk, drummed up, fake propaganda.
I have done my investigation in communism, into Italian fascism, naziism, the kkk, the interment of Japanese Citizens in the US, the destruction of native American cultures, etc etc. Ive done my research. I know what totalitarians say, because they say the same thing regardless of what ideology they support. “Sure x did bad thing, but also x did good thing!” “We only killed this type of person because they were enemies of the state!”
Your two powers were bloodthirsty expansionists. Intent on spreading their cultural hegemony across borders. Just as the U.S. exists now and did in the past. Power corrupts. And concentrating it in the hands of the few, in one bureaucracy is disastrous for the majority.
Ask any post soviet country how they liked it during the USSR
The vast majority believe they are worse off now than under Socialism, which makes sense because the reintroduction of Capitalism resulted in skyrocketing rates of poverty, prostitution, drug abuse, homelessness, and an estimated 7 million excess deaths around the world.
I guess you can say Ukraine is now worse off than in the USSR, Back then they weren’t at war. The current situation isn’t exactly the fault of capitalism (or Ukranie for that matter)
This data was pre-Russo-Ukrainian war.
Over 15 year old data at this point. And in countries that don’t have a free press.
It’s still well-documented and consistent. Socialism worked better than Capitalism. Plus, no press is ever “free,” either private interests dominate it or public interests do.
Private interests do align, but rarely. Meaning you have more chance at opposing narratives forming. Public is monovoiced. Without an opposing voice its data becomes suspect.
Private is controlled by large corporations, and often gets state funding. All press has bias. Really, you don’t have anything against the data other than you feel like it could be wrong.
I don’t trust it. Correct. I like multiple sources not controlled by one person. I like independent journalism. I think your data is bunk, drummed up, fake propaganda.
You don’t even have sources, just ambient cultural anti-communism. When Cowbee tried to present you with new information, you just responded “tldr”.
You have zero interest in independent journalism, you reject anything that doesn’t agree with you out of hand
I respond to obvious propaganda with the snide churlish snark it demands. Same goes for angry tankies. :)
You have nothing for that but vibes, though. You can go to the sources and debunk them if you wish, but with just vibes, you have nothing.
I have done my investigation in communism, into Italian fascism, naziism, the kkk, the interment of Japanese Citizens in the US, the destruction of native American cultures, etc etc. Ive done my research. I know what totalitarians say, because they say the same thing regardless of what ideology they support. “Sure x did bad thing, but also x did good thing!” “We only killed this type of person because they were enemies of the state!”
Your two powers were bloodthirsty expansionists. Intent on spreading their cultural hegemony across borders. Just as the U.S. exists now and did in the past. Power corrupts. And concentrating it in the hands of the few, in one bureaucracy is disastrous for the majority.