Unlike 2016, when his victory over Hillary Clinton came as a shock to many Americans, Trump was no surprise in 2024. The Democratic Party had the benefit of four years to ensure that this would not happen again. Yet as in 2016, Democrats appear to have failed to win over the electorate in a race against a uniquely unpopular candidate — this time one with multiple impeachments, indictments, and criminal convictions.

The short-lived Biden campaign and subsequent Harris campaign opted to try to beat Republicans at their own game, by tacking rightward on issues such as immigration, criminal justice, and climate. After President Joe Biden dropped out, the Democratic Party rejected calls to stop providing arms to Israel’s war on Gaza. Instead, Harris touted the endorsements of conservatives such as Liz Cheney. The strategy was a ploy to woo moderates and conservatives wary of a second Trump term, but it may have alienated key voting blocs.

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    Honestly, I think they blew it back over the 4 years they barely did anything to lock him up. It took them the better part of 3 years to just get the freaking classified documents back. And they still don’t have them all back.

    They sat around all that time because they were afraid of being political. Well guess what. Now that fascist fuck is the next POTUS and it’s bloody political.

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      Bingo. Garland has the same amount of blame as Biden and Harris. Biden should’ve thrown him out and replaced him with anyone willing to actually enforce the law regardless of “conflict”. Trump doesn’t wanna return documents after being asked nicely? An FBI raid or two should fix that. Judge Cannon doesn’t wanna prosecute and keeps stalling the case? Move the case to another judge, keep moving it until you find one who isn’t going to play games.

      The DNC’s perennial problem is that they’re so afraid of fighting dirty against a party that, since Nixon, has had little problem doing exactly that. I wanted a Democratic Party that was willing to go to the mat and meet the GOP where it was, rather than trying to take the high road, and for a few weeks it seems like we HAD THAT.

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        The sad part is…. That’s not even fighting dirty.

        Garland fucked around, and now we’re all finding out.

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      In 2016 when Trump supporters were declaring the economy fixed on DAY ONE. Or when Trump supporters were blaming inflation on the inflation reduction act, which was named after the ALREADY soaring inflation.

      They’ve been gaslighting Americans for the last 8 years. We overestimated Americans, just like Hillary did in 2016, and assumed they would see the obvious faults in logic.

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      They tried to impeach him and more. They were blocked by Congress. It was pretty clear that they didn’t have enough votes to do anything.

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        What does congress have to do with a fucking criminal trial on violating the National Espionage Act?

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          What do democrats have to do with it? I was under the impression that you were talking about Congress not taking action to hold Trump accountable.

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            Yes, because the DoJ are “congress”.

            Biden is the head of the executive branch, and Marrick Garland’s boss.

            It took Garland two and a half years just to appoint Smith as special counsel. They sat around with their thumbs up their asses hoping trump would fade to obscurity because they were afraid of being “political”

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    I don’t buy this. In Nebraska there was an election between an independent union leader and a career politician. The union leader lost.

    The consensus seems to be that people that voted democrat in 2020 voted republican this time because they experienced inflation under Biden that think it was his fault.

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      All the polls suggest it was driven by the economy. Inflation is quite moderate right now, but the prices stay high, so that’s got to be on everyone’s mind.

      People around here think it’s all manner of things except what voters are actually saying.

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    Donald Trump winning is not an indictment of the Democratic Party, or Harris for that matter. It’s an indictment of the American people.

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        The way modern democracies die is they democratically elect authoritarian leaders who erode and dismantle that democracy. Parties don’t matter. It’s the people who do it to themselves. Sad but true.

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          I mean yeah but that didn’t need to be now. Harris basically threw the race and that’s part of why this disaster came to be. Even assuming American democracy was nearing the end of its lifetime, it should’ve had a few more decades in it. The popular will to defeat Trump was there.

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            Harris didn’t do anything any good pol wouldn’t do. The popular will was not there, as the results displayed.

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              Harris didn’t do anything any good pol wouldn’t do

              Huh? Look at her campaign’s treatment of the Uncommitted movement, among others, and say that again. Harris was openly antagonizing her voters, relying completely on not being Trump ala Hillary Clinton and courting right wing voters at the cost of her base. And if you don’t believe it, well, take it up with Bernie.

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                Fringe groups always think they have more political power than they do, and always feel picked on.

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                  Liberals will do any amount of mental gymnastics to point the finger at anyone but themselves.

                  Harris lost Michigan by less people than voted Uncommitted during the primaries. They might be a “fringe group,” but Harris sure could’ve used some of their votes, don’t you think?

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    I bet Harris hasn’t given a speech because they’re coming over the votes with a fine tooth comb to check for anything funky. I’m not claiming I think that happened, but the trump party has been caught doing almost every single corrupt thing they have accused the dnc of doing, and the trump party has done an awful lot of finger pointing about rigging the election.