• I_Comment_On_EVERYTHING@lemmings.world
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      11 months ago

      Aftermarket hard top that locked into the top of the tailgate. You could unlock the tailgate but wouldn’t be able to pull it down.

      If memory serves me the hardtop keys were given to someone to get a tool and never returned to the driver.

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          11 months ago

          Unless you are carrying chemicals constantly and don’t want to be smelling the fumes all day.

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            11 months ago

            My renault came with a solid steel cargo barrier and small glass window. You could carry a lion in the back and probably be fine.

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              11 months ago

              You would trust your lungs to vehicle manufacturers getting every van air-tight with seals to last for many years?

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          11 months ago

          Both have their use cases. I wouldn’t say one is better than the other

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            11 months ago

            Millions upon millions of contractors in every country except the US would disagree

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              Of course they would because they don’t need one for what they do. But I also imagine another few million around the world do. What you choose depends on what you need

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            11 months ago

            Vans can tow too. Many full sized Vans are a truck chassis and drivetrain with the body of a Van.

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              11 months ago

              vans always have a much lower tow rating, the chassis and drivetrain are almost always different in some critical way

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              11 months ago

              Apples to apples, those vans are more expensive and larger. At what point does it become ok to have an open bed? There are valid pros and cons in every choice being talked about, here.

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                At what point does it become ok to have an open bed?

                When the distance from the back of the truck to the front of the bed is longer than the distance from the back of the cab to the front of the truck, it turns from a Sport Utility Truck into a Pickup Truck. Typically that’s around when the bed gets big enough to haul a sheet of plywood or drywall safely.

                Of course it’s OK to have an SUT instead of a pickup truck, just not as useful for construction work.

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                  11 months ago

                  So edgy.

                  What if you rest the wood on the tailgate, or lean it on the roof, then tie it down, is it no longer safe?

                  What if you’re the driver for a small crew that picks them up every morning then uses the smaller bed for supply runs?

                  Just lemmy grasping at straws to put everyone into a box based on incomplete information.

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                    11 months ago

                    I said nothing about safety. I just said it should be considered a different class of vehicle if it meets certain characteristics. SUTs are great for camping, for hauling surf boards & kayaks (possibly with a rack) and tow just as well as pickups. They don’t have a full-size bed, so they’re worse at most jobs, though the larger cab does mean they can carry more workers at once. It’s a trade-off: get worse at most work-related tasks, get better at personal tasks and thus reach a wider market.