In Texas, Wilbur met with Paul Chabot in 2020, who runs a specialty realty service, Conservative Move. Started in 2017, the company has helped thousands of people relocate from blue states to red states, Chabot says.
Good. Gtfo. We don’t need you. But for this to actually work in our favor, we need to sever ties with the middle of this country. The “national divorce” that shitheads like MTG talked about would be awesome if we really pursued it. Let California and NY (massive economies) form a new progressive government with likeminded states. Outside of Texas, the old USA will have economies like Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi. That’s gonna work out great for them.
“It’s not like people are leaving just because they hate Democrats. They don’t like Democrat policies, but they really feel like they’re alone, alienated, ostracized,” he says.
I don’t believe you.
Yeah, they’re all leaving because they don’t want to pay taxes
Yeah, some democrat and centre left policies are really good, like affordable healthcare and public education and transportation
Also there are really good books written by democrats
Love how the examples are two dinosaurs who felt “strange”, and a trans person fleeing death threats.
Fucking NPR has been rendered less than toothless.
I used to listen to them everyday, and I just fucking can’t anymore. They don’t stand for anything. They just bend the knee, bow their heads, and do what they’re told
They massively overcorrected after constantly being called “leftist” or whatever by conservatives.
And for what? They still call it that, the only difference is that now the Overton Window is slightly more to the right. Good job NPR.
The next headline will be “Why are some areas deep red and some are deep blue all while the majority of the U.S. votes moderately conservative? No one can figure it out!”
The neat part is both ends of the spectrum are helping billionaires, so really this is just heaven for them.
It’s less of a spectrum and more of a bucket with two marbles.
Davis describes herself as a trans refugee. Back in Texas, she says, lived in a “pretty hostile and frankly dangerous” place. “I had a lot of close calls, a lot of threats.”
Wilbur also describes himself as a “refugee.” He relates an experience that is a virtual mirror image of Davis’. In Seattle, the local conservative talk show host — who also briefly served as Washington state Republican chair — felt like a stranger in a strange land.
Virtual mirror image, indeed.
‘I fled my state because of death threats’
‘I felt ostracized by my neighbors because they weren’t comfortable with my racism.’
These things are totally equal to republicans, unfortunately.
A neighbor once aggressively confronted my wife and I to tell us not to walk past his house. Our offense was that some time prior we had laughed at his Trump flags (yup, multiple) while walking our dogs and he heard us through his Ring cameras while spying on the neighborhood.
In the course of the interaction, the person made veiled threats against us and our dogs, and repeatedly tried to tell us where we could and could not exist. It’s a public sidewalk. Obviously we did not alter our route, but I did start carrying a knife and making sure the dogs were not eating anything her may have put down and that we were consummately courteous (cleaning up pet mess, making sure they didn’t tromp into landscaping, etc).
Mind you, this was before Trump took office the second time. He took those flags down by April 2025 and later apologized to me - telling me the flag removal was a removal of support for Trump.
Which is great, but his vague threats could have been construed as death threats. Our ‘threat’ to him was a threat to his ego.
He took those flags down by April 2025 and later apologized to me - telling me the flag removal was a removal of support for Trump.
This is far far more than you’ll ever get from most of them
Exactly.
These people don’t understand that fundamentally their behavior is unacceptable.
Surprising a Trump supporter would live anywhere with a sidewalk
And when they talk about how dangerous the cities are:
For instance, some conservative groups are trying to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark 2015 ruling that established same-sex marriage as a constitutional right. McCranie says some of his clients are wondering, “Where would we be safe as a couple and as a family?”
Yeah. Total mirror image indeed.
Yeah, but think of how oppressive it must feel to be surrounded by people who don’t arbitrarily hate entire groups of other humans…
I feel like we need to start a movement to make Christianity illegal so that we can end on the compromise of “mind your own fucking business.” A huge portion of this asymmetry seems to stem from the fact that liberals and leftists never go on offense, so when things reduce to maximalist bullshit there no leverage in negotiating the social contract.
I took my very hetero straight family to church yesterday and we shared a table with a young gay couple for lunch. My gosh it was soo terrible having a nice conversation with them. I could even let my kids go off and play without them being molested by a priest like god intended. /s
The day before we went to the pride parade and there was a guy in the street spewing hate before it started. I went up and asked if he thinks he is saying anything we haven’t heard before and all he really said was “free speech” in defense. I told him your speech is worthless if that’s your defense and walked away. He didn’t hang around after he saw me pointing him out to my kids. They have so much pride in their shame.
So one person feels slightly uncomfortable and the other one literally lives in fear because of threats. Yeah, totally similar scenarios.
he’s like most of his [Conservative] clients, who “feel like they can’t talk politics with people on their street.”
There’s a difference between “talking politics” and red-faced screaming at people that they’re evil and don’t deserve to exist, threatening people walking by with assault rifles, hunting down and murdering a jogger, spitting on people wearing masks, etc.
They also want to be somewhere they don’t feel judged for their political beliefs […] they really feel like they’re alone, alienated, ostracized,"
See prior comment. They want to be racist, sexist, homophobic, fascist, assholes, and they don’t want to get any pushback for being racist, sexist, homophobic, fascist assholes.
Yeah, if you can’t talk about your politics in public without being shunned, maybe it’s time to reconsider those politics?
Yeah, well said. There’s difference between being moderately political, politically moderate and being a terrible person
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Its driven by billionaires
