• mnfalconia_a2gc@retrolemmy.com
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    A little data point on the whole marriage thing… I and my life partner have been together for 20 y, will be 21 in September. We never got married and we don’t have any rings. I keep hearing that a lot of marriages these days don’t last this long.

    We do informally call each other “my wife”, but still, no formal marriage was ever done.

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    Why would it matter if you can’t afford jewelry to get married? If this were at a time where the husband is expected to be the sole earner, that could be a problem. But this is 2026. He’s working, she’s working, and getting married will not change that.

    If anything, his and her individual financial burden will decrease by getting married by combining their finances and sharing bills, if they aren’t spending stupid money on diamond rings, big weddings, exotic honeymoons, etc. They’ll share a home, utilities, online subscriptions, etc. That will save them both money. If they can afford to live individually without luxuries, they can more easily afford to live together, maybe with the occasional luxury.

    Stupid take.

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      Thank you.

      Marriage is simultaneously promoted because it saves money due to sharing expenses and often (but not always) tax benefits, but also people don’t have enough money to get married. Wut?

      The ring and wedding itself might be expensive, but they are also optional.

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    How does nobody get this? The commenter isn’t saying “proposing without jewlery is wild” she’s saying “two people so broke they are making commitments to each other when they can’t even afford to spend some money on a simple tradition that’s been around for generations.” It’s the not being able to afford it part she is referring to not the jewelry itself

    Edit: obviously yall are idiots and someone else can explain it better than me if they want

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      I encourage you to look at the price of engagement rings and wedding bands, homie.

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      So in her opinion poor people shouldn’t get married or have relationships? That’s some rather odd gatekeeping.

      If we ignore the useless traditions around marriage and won’t feed this overpriced industry. It’s completely possible to get married rather cheaply and it will not effect the marriage.

      I’m fairly sure that this particular marriage will last longer and be much better than many of the ones that spend completely insane amounts or even worse go into dept to get married.

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      I get what you’re saying but also, shouldn’t poor people be allowed to get married if they want?

      It’s really inexpensive to get the paperwork done at the courthouse.

      Like, why try to gatekeep love behind physical wealth?

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        Poor people can do whatever they want the point is if you can’t take care of yourself then your can’t take care of your partner and you shouldn’t promise anyone shit until you can afford to keep yourself alive after spending some money on jewelry

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      You don’t have 1.5-2k to drop on a fucking metal band that barely announces that you’re married? Shouldn’t be getting married, then.

      What a stupid take.

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    22 years of marriage here. Never bought, given, or worn a diamond in my life.

    Marriage rings are a marketing campaign created to sell you a piece of carbon that is so “rare” they put them on $12 drill bit sets.

    Yep. Yep. Different quality stones. Gotcha. Interested in buying a bridge by chance?

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      Yeah I’m not that far into marriage and I swear someday I’ll get around to getting a nice ring, but I currently wear a silicone one and my wife wears an heirloom ring from her family.

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      Carbon is the 4th most abundant element in the galaxy. Silicon is twice as rare, so maybe spend 6 month’s salary on a quartz ring instead? Either that, or save up for a down payment on a house. Nah, who needs a place to live when you can have a hunk of mineral, right?

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      How much for the bridge? I would need a guarantee though that it’s actually used and not just buolilt on flat land in the middle of nowhere! I am no fool after all.

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      natural diamonds, are indeed rare, in part because of the marketing campaign driving up demand for an completely useless use of them

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        They really aren’t, De Beers just had a cartel on the diamond industry and artificially restricted the supply to drive up prices. They have massive deep storage vaults filled with gem quality diamonds just so it can maintain pricing.

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    I really hate those pictures that just show some randoms with a sob story. I always feel that they are totally fake.

    (and if this is true: You can get cheap wedding rings. You do not have to pay thousands of money for them. You can get a cheap ring and that does work, too. Feel free to propose to the human you love even if you can’t afford some expensive ring)

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    That he can’t afford it is a stupid assumption imo, this looks like a deliberate choice. Being responsible for raising and taking care of a kitten together is a much bigger commitment than wearing a ring.

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      Meh, it’s all fake af probably but the initial post says he was couldn’t afford a ring so if we’re going with it then yeah he is poor in this hypothetical.

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        I saw that when i was like eight years old and apparently you’re the only other person in the world who saw it because nobody acts like anything on the internet could ever be fake

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          Yeah but also there’s the “nothing ever happens” crowd and they’re equally as annoying.

          I think in this case it’s a bit irrelevant anyway, the financial situation is irrelevant but clearly he is proposing in clearly he does have a kitten everything else is immaterial really.

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          It was the only cartoon that was on the minute I got back from school. With 4 channels available it was this, Bargain Hunters, some soap opera or the news.

          Arthur was not very funny or particularly interesting, but it sure beat out the alternatives.

          The theme tune has been stuck in my head for 30 years…

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      I agree, but also, if you can’t afford a cheap ass ring, you probably can’t afford a pet. It doesn’t need to be something fancy. If you care about that tradition (not implying the person in the image does), you can get rings pretty cheap if you don’t need the whole diamond thing, and even cheaper if you’re willing to buy second-hand.

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        Surely a second hand wedding ring must be cursed or something right? Why was it available in the first place? Did they die? Get divorced? Lose their hands and or fingers in some fetish play gone horribly wrong?

        Better to just avoid the whole situation and get a cat.

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        That was us. Our wedding bands were about that all in, and I got their engagement ring for about $125.

        I think everything we did for our wedding, rings included, was around $1500. The majority of that was booze.

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      We didn’t do rings. I worked in a chemistry lab, husband has a skin issue and wearing a ring would probably mean nonstop doctor visits.

      So we just didn’t have rings. It’s really very simple.

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        I just really hate the feeling of wearing rings.

        If I was ever to get married (I won’t), then I wouldn’t have a ring.

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      I agree with you, but I’d say it’s a 50/50 toss up with women. Half of them would agree with us. The other half are too busy planning a 300k wedding on a 15/hr salary. Those types sometimes care more about the ring than the partner.

      I know a lot of women who would be thrilled to be proposed to with a cat.

      In the past, I’ve also known women who would be sour that they didn’t get a ring. I try not to know that type of person for long.

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        Honestly, propose to me with a new Akrapovic Slip-On exhaust for my Hornet 750 and a small ceremony near the water in the country with a moto camping trip as the honeymoon and I’d be in biker girl heaven.

        Could get away with the whole shebang for under $10k

        To be fair, that exhaust probably costs as much as most wedding rings anyway lol.

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        Thinking that 50 percent of women are shallow gold diggers seems a bit high. There are plenty of men who have superficial feelings about how they want their wife to look, but it’s nowhere near 50/50. Usually those gym bros and trophy wives pair up so they’re not really hurting anyone normal with their expectations.

        Personally, I wear a silicone ring. So does my spouse. Our rings for our wedding were a hand me down and a band with a non diamond stone. That said, it’s fair to want a ring. It’s fair to want the tradition, and it’s fair to be comforted by the idea that your partner has been thinking about asking you to merge lives for longer than just today. A ring used to mean more when women weren’t allowed their own bank accounts (actually very recently, in the scheme of things), but it’s still meaningful in a society where we’re taught (incorrectly) that men value non commitment, and don’t want to get “chained” to a “nagging wife.”

        Funnily, it’s guys who make comments like you (that it’s a total toss up whether any woman has an ounce of substance to her or if she’s a total bimbo who only cares about money) that make women afraid that men are not going to fully commit which is why things like a big unnecessary time commitment before the proposal seems romantic and reassuring

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        Those types sometimes care more about the ring than the partner.

        I have heard of them, “he hasn’t proposed yet so I left him” kinda thing. That guy was probably happy with things and completely unaware she expected anything to change.

        I do find it odd that when I have looked at posts about it before the vast majority of weddings seem to be super expensive or super cheap. Very little in the middle. Like 3 digits going to a pub for food or 5+ getting fucking everything.

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          We were sort of in the middle? Wedding dress was a prom dress from Debenham’s (70 quid), Edinburgh registry office, a few friends, 1 brother and the parentals. Afternoon tea at the Balmoral. Not cheap but not 5 figures either.

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            Ohh that sounds like a nice idea. Much smaller event but something nice.

            Not sure how much of my family would go, they are spread across different corners of the UK. Meanwhile my partner’s family is all packed into an area I can walk across.

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    While a cat will cost more on the long term, proposing with a kitten seems like it would be nigh impossible to turn down. Who says no to a kitten? I don’t believe it has happened in recorded history.

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    Guarantee you that cat will cost more in the first year than a ring from a fancy jewelry store

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      You severely underestimate the cost of jewelry. And every cost also multiplies by 400% if you put the word “wedding” in front of it.

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        And every cost also multiplies by 400% if you put the word “wedding” in front of it.

        In some cases, you can get around that by just not mentioning the whole ‘wedding’ thing.

        And the ring is one of those cases. Just go to the jewelry store, pick one out, and never mention what it’s for. No reason for any price surcharges – a ring is a ring.


        In other cases, though, you really shouldn’t take such shortcuts. That is, if you’re particular about how you want your wedding to go.

        Take the florist for example. For a regular (regular price) order, if you’ve ordered 100 yellow roses for the table settings, but they’re out of yellow roses, they’ll just substitute in 100 white roses instead and call it a day.

        But if you’re particular about ‘your special day’ being perfect and you must have the yellow roses, that’s when the florist needs to know that it’s for a wedding, specifically. And no matter what happens, they’ll do their damnedest to make sure you get the yellow roses you ordered, no substitutions. And that extra mile of effort is what the 400% price surcharge is for.

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          In other cases, though, you really shouldn’t take such shortcuts. That is, if you’re particular about how you want your wedding to go.

          Photographers is the classic example of where you don’t want to cut corners. Even if you cheap out on rings, you can always buy different rings later on. You only get one day to get the photos you want.

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        I can never tell when someone is just arguing for the thrill of it or if they’re genuine…

        As someone who’s had five dogs and three cats + been married, divorced, and remarried pets cost more just in terms of money. I bought real wedding bands & engagement rings from a proper jeweler for about $1,500 USD per ring. On the other hand I spent between $1500-3000 in vet bills alone for almost every pet I’ve adopted just in the first year; not to mention the toys, food, etc that comes along.

        I suspect you’re gonna say “oh, well some people spend tens of thousands on wedding bands” which is true, but those are also the types of people who spend five-figures on purebred pets and doesn’t apply to the average experiece.

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          Wow, either your pets have been extremely unlucky, or you live somewhere VERY expensive. Considering those are dollars, I can guess it’s a probably at least a bit of the second.

          My Dutch vet has a “kitten package” which is 550 euros for spay/neuter, first year of (three rounds of?) vaccines and one seperate checkup. I probably spend something like 500 euros on food/grit per cat. Maybe a bit less, it’s cheaper if you have two. That doesn’t include complications of course, or food/toys.

          On the other hand, my wedding ring doesn’t exist because neither of us like rings, so it’s never going to beat that.