After getting an EV myself, the vroom is completely irrelevant IMO, I actually find the silent acceleration way cooler. 😎
The problem with the new Electric Ferrari is way more that the design is an uninteresting stereotype of an average small sportscar.
I enjoy it when I sit in the car, but only to a degree. And I hate it when others keep driving by my window, blasting me with their micro penis sound. Or when they scare my dogs. So if you 100% absolutely need it to be happy, let’s make a compromise and play an artificial sound inside of your own car. Oh, and please do the same with every fucking loud motorcycle.
And to Ferrari, if you want an outrageously cool car with electric motors, this is how you do it.
Agreed, there are some really cool ev hypercars out there and Ferrari could have done that and gotten positive responses, but instead they made the most boring looking car ever.
I love taking off in my EV and doing a tight turn without walking up the whole neighborhood. But people who buy expensive sport cars mostly want to be seen and heard, they’re not doing this for the driving comfort. I found my drive in a Ferrari lacking in comfort.
I would have believed this car was a Kia without a second thought if I saw it on the road with that badge. That’s not a compliment for either company, unfortunately.
I drive a chevrolet bolt and I can definitely hear the motor when I’m accelerating fast. Honestly I think a loud electric motor sounds way cooler than a gas engine, especially when you think about the fact that the noise is coming out of something the size of a coffee can thats having 150 thousand watts dumped into it.
IDK how many HP yours have, ours is pretty modest by EV standards with only 204 HP, and I can’t really say for sure that I can hear the engine.
But we did by a car that has very good sound proofing, but we can still hear the tires clearly. Still the quiet of the car makes it feel like a luxury car IMO. 👍 😎
The thing is, others did manage to, and those are new companies without the massive budget Ferrari has. But with all those possibilities they chose to create a fast blue dumpster.
Okay, the car I posted isn’t exactly the same price tag, but it outperforms the Ferrari on more than just design.
Those batteries are a massive advantage for the design, they are put at the bottom like all other electric cars, and help keep the weigh center very low.
Engines and cooling also allow for much greater flexibility in design. But for some reason they decided to not use that greater design freedom to make an actual cool design, but more like if Tesla model 3 had a sports version with some body tuning.
The 700k price tag is not a problem for me, 500k or 700k doesn’t make any difference to me, I can’t afford either.
My price range is more like 60k, and then I buy it used for half of that. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Still I like new groundbreaking designs, which we have seen sometimes from Ferrari, but this is not one of them IMO.
This looks more like a way cheaper car, that could actually be in my price range.
Maybe it looks better in real life, but my experience is the opposite.
batteries and inverters definitely take up more volume than an ice drivetrain. the advantage is that they can be put in more places than the mechanical linkages.
I’m pretty sure an ICE takes up more space, there’s a lot more components to it. There’s some very slim EV super cars. And yeah, way more flexibility with an EV system.
My point is simply that electric vs combustion power distribution and volume / mass differences make it, I assume, difficult to maintain the same design language.
Not at all, there’s loads of fully electric super cars that look just how you would expect, sleeker even. This was a deliberate design decision from Ferrari.
I think the principle is exactly the same, actually I think it’s even more cool in a super car. Because your acceleration is insane, but there is still almost no noise.
One of my neighbors have a pretty fast EV like zero to a hundred in less than 5 seconds. When he gives that car full pedal, it is absolutely awesome.
IMO a roaring ICE car is so outdated. For a more normal ICE car, it’s outright embarrassing, all that noise for nothing!
I know rich people tend to be narcissistic, so they may like the attention the noise makes, but generally they don’t like to be involuntary laughing stocks when they play with their expansive toys.
PS: Our car is pretty average for an EV, but still better than most ICE cars.
I love how we are on Lemmy, the poorest, rich people hating, communism wanting, most autistic place on the internet talking about what rich people want
For a more normal ICE car, it’s outright embarrassing, all that noise for nothing!
Yes that’s right, however they’re not driving a normal ICE, they’re driving a ferrari or lamborghini, the ones with millions of views for people just to hear the sound:
After getting an EV myself, the vroom is completely irrelevant IMO, I actually find the silent acceleration way cooler. 😎
The problem with the new Electric Ferrari is way more that the design is an uninteresting stereotype of an average small sportscar.
I enjoy it when I sit in the car, but only to a degree. And I hate it when others keep driving by my window, blasting me with their micro penis sound. Or when they scare my dogs. So if you 100% absolutely need it to be happy, let’s make a compromise and play an artificial sound inside of your own car. Oh, and please do the same with every fucking loud motorcycle.
And to Ferrari, if you want an outrageously cool car with electric motors, this is how you do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYp9eGC3Cc
Agreed, there are some really cool ev hypercars out there and Ferrari could have done that and gotten positive responses, but instead they made the most boring looking car ever.
I love taking off in my EV and doing a tight turn without walking up the whole neighborhood. But people who buy expensive sport cars mostly want to be seen and heard, they’re not doing this for the driving comfort. I found my drive in a Ferrari lacking in comfort.
They should’ve just slapped a Fiat badge and a 60k price tag on it and it would have been interesting again.
In the other end of the scale we have the “Bat Mobil”
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/road/news/the-ariel-hipercar-is-a-1000ps-nutjob-with-a-turbine/
It’s ugly, but at least it’s not boring. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Or the Yangwang U9 Extreme, maybe the fastest car in the world, looks amazing, and is an ev.
https://www.yangwangauto.com/en/car/u9-xtreme
They have used none of Ferrari’s “design language” for this car, it doesn’t look like a Ferrari.
This was actually designed by Johnny Ives’ design studio. I don’t think they got the message that Ferrari was the customer.
I absolutely agree, it could maybe be argued that the new design is elegant, but my immediate impression was just uninteresting.
I would have believed this car was a Kia without a second thought if I saw it on the road with that badge. That’s not a compliment for either company, unfortunately.
It’s a 50k design at best. Not worthy of the 650k price tag
Exactly, it looks somewhat like some of those cheap Japanese sports cars from the late 80’s. Except those were OK for the price and time.
I drive a chevrolet bolt and I can definitely hear the motor when I’m accelerating fast. Honestly I think a loud electric motor sounds way cooler than a gas engine, especially when you think about the fact that the noise is coming out of something the size of a coffee can thats having 150 thousand watts dumped into it.
IDK how many HP yours have, ours is pretty modest by EV standards with only 204 HP, and I can’t really say for sure that I can hear the engine.
But we did by a car that has very good sound proofing, but we can still hear the tires clearly. Still the quiet of the car makes it feel like a luxury car IMO. 👍 😎
Difficult to use the same design language with massive batteries. I actually think it looks okay. For me the issue is the 700k price tag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOcp3-Ik3G4
The thing is, others did manage to, and those are new companies without the massive budget Ferrari has. But with all those possibilities they chose to create a fast blue dumpster.
Okay, the car I posted isn’t exactly the same price tag, but it outperforms the Ferrari on more than just design.
Those batteries are a massive advantage for the design, they are put at the bottom like all other electric cars, and help keep the weigh center very low.
Engines and cooling also allow for much greater flexibility in design. But for some reason they decided to not use that greater design freedom to make an actual cool design, but more like if Tesla model 3 had a sports version with some body tuning.
The 700k price tag is not a problem for me, 500k or 700k doesn’t make any difference to me, I can’t afford either.
My price range is more like 60k, and then I buy it used for half of that. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Still I like new groundbreaking designs, which we have seen sometimes from Ferrari, but this is not one of them IMO.
This looks more like a way cheaper car, that could actually be in my price range.
Maybe it looks better in real life, but my experience is the opposite.
Batteries that take up less space than a massive engine and gearbox?
batteries and inverters definitely take up more volume than an ice drivetrain. the advantage is that they can be put in more places than the mechanical linkages.
I’m pretty sure an ICE takes up more space, there’s a lot more components to it. There’s some very slim EV super cars. And yeah, way more flexibility with an EV system.
My point is simply that electric vs combustion power distribution and volume / mass differences make it, I assume, difficult to maintain the same design language.
Not at all, there’s loads of fully electric super cars that look just how you would expect, sleeker even. This was a deliberate design decision from Ferrari.
How many Ferrari’s/Lamborghini/Supercars/Hypercars have you owned before?
I also prefer the faster take off at the lights but lets not pretend we’re the target market for Ferrari’s.
I think the principle is exactly the same, actually I think it’s even more cool in a super car. Because your acceleration is insane, but there is still almost no noise.
One of my neighbors have a pretty fast EV like zero to a hundred in less than 5 seconds. When he gives that car full pedal, it is absolutely awesome.
IMO a roaring ICE car is so outdated. For a more normal ICE car, it’s outright embarrassing, all that noise for nothing!
I know rich people tend to be narcissistic, so they may like the attention the noise makes, but generally they don’t like to be involuntary laughing stocks when they play with their expansive toys.
PS: Our car is pretty average for an EV, but still better than most ICE cars.
I love how we are on Lemmy, the poorest, rich people hating, communism wanting, most autistic place on the internet talking about what rich people want
Yes that’s right, however they’re not driving a normal ICE, they’re driving a ferrari or lamborghini, the ones with millions of views for people just to hear the sound:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lamborghini+engine+sound
4 Minutes of V12 Aventador SV Raw Audio [4K]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKkvlYi6JC0
2 million views 🤣
Yes
Nobody is laughing at a V12 Aventador or Ferrari F40, this is lemmy autism