• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    17 hours ago

    We’re not talking about the right, though; we’re talking about the left and center. You know, the people who voted for Obama, and who would be expected to vote for a Democratic candidate. Why even care what the right thinks?

    Acting like it’s currently the environment of 2008 is blind.

    Sure, but that cuts both ways. Just like the right is more fascist today, the left and center-left are more progressive and more willing to listen to radical voices. Your implicit assumption that all of America shifted rightwards doesn’t match up with reality.

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      16 hours ago

      My point was about the last 18 years of right wing propaganda. We can’t act like it didn’t happen and that we’re in the same place as 2008.

      You don’t have do go very far to find “my dad was the greatest, didn’t care if people were black” to, well, I won’t repeat much of the Qanon. There’s a whole sub for it, remember? QanonCasualties. That’s the point of propaganda, to spread the message, to increase their numbers. And no it doesn’t cut both ways because left media is beholden to the truth, and right wing media can do whatever they want. And they do. And they grow. Most popular “news” source is what? Fox. You are missing everything. Like fucking everything.

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          12 hours ago

          It’s a little disjointed because I edited in the first paragraph, but yes it does respond to what you said.

          Do you want a line by line breakdown? Ok.

          We’re not talking about the right, though; we’re talking about the left and center.

          Agreed. And guess what? The right wing’s propaganda machine has reached the center. That’s the whole point. 18 years of hardcore propaganda has reached the center. That’s the point of propaganda.

          You know, the people who voted for Obama,

          You don’t have do go very far to find “my dad was the greatest, didn’t care if people were black” EDIT AT ADD: “and voted for Obama”. And those people changed to, well, I won’t repeat much of the Qanon.

          There’s a whole sub for it, remember? QanonCasualties. People that were formely center or Obama voters that got suckered in. That’s the point of propaganda, to spread the message, to increase their voters.

          Why even care what the right thinks?

          The whole point of propaganda is to reach other people. So it’s not what the right thinks, it’s how the people that were formerly center that have been suckered in to the right’s propoganda will vote.

          Sure, but that cuts both ways.

          No it doesn’t cut both ways because left media is beholden to the truth, and right wing media can do whatever they want. They lie their ass off. They twist. They appeal to easy emotions like fear and anger. The left media can’t do that.

          The most popular “news” source is what? Fox.

          You are missing everything. Like fucking everything.

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        13 hours ago

        You’re the only one talking sense here.

        The Right has shifted the overton window so hard to the right that Fascism is a mainstream opinion. Heck it’s considered more rude to question Fascism than it is to question Trans Rights.