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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago

5 ways the Iran war shows NATO is not ready to fight Russia

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5 ways the Iran war shows NATO is not ready to fight Russia

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago
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5 ways the Iran war shows NATO is not ready to fight Russia – POLITICO
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      looks like somebody’s been guzzling propaganda uncritically

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        It’s like 4 years into a 3 day “special operation.” What makes you think Russia could do well against better armed nations, let alone NATO.

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          Except Russia never said anything about about a 3 day operation. It came from General Milley during an interview with Fox News, where it was presented as a rough estimate of what American forces might do. You will not find a single statement from Russia to that effect.

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            Well, that was only being used to reinforce my point. Even if it’s not true, it’s still 4 years into a war with a much smaller country. The rest of comment still stands. Russia would certainly do worse against better armed nations or NATO.

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              Even if it’s not true, it’s still

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              It’s 4 years into a war with the entire industrial and financial power of NATO using a the people of Ukraine to fight Russia. All the weapons in Ukraine are NATO weapons and they’re being defeated in Ukraine. Don’t take my word for it though, here’s what NYT has to say on the subject https://archive.ph/ThjaB

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                I know they aren’t exactly fighting on their own, but it’s also not the same as fighting NATO directly. Somehow you keep missing the point.

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                  Seems to me that you’re the one missing the point. Ukrainians use NATO weapons, but their actual skill in fighting is far higher than that of NATO armies that haven’t seen combat. In a recent NATO exercise, 10 Ukrainians wiped out two NATO battalions in 24h with drones, NATO troops couldn’t even locate the launch points. So, Russia is fighting a superior army to that of NATO that’s using best NATO equipment.

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                    Now that is some good evidence. Surprising that NATO doesn’t use drones.

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          whos ammo stockpile that cant be replenished cos lack of productive forces and that could be used right now in the ME has been destroyed in the last few years? russia or us empire? you libs think wars are won by beign fast. you think this is fucking CS when you win by points. search war of attrition you might learn a concept or two.

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          It seems technology has once again made it easy to create military stalemates regardless of the nations fighting.

          This seems like a hard lesson to learn for many in different countries. Perhaps those obstinate generals of World War One, those that ordered failed assaults, should be looked at differently, and not judged so harshly as history has.

          Because people seem to just do this

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          the least deranged comment of the day everybody

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              meanwhile in the real world

              https://ukrainewarlosses.org/

              https://kyivindependent.com/wars-are-not-won-without-people-budanov-warns-of-mobilization-crisis/

              go home little fash

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                Casualties aren’t the same thing as deaths or MIA. Casualties also include injured and those taken out due to sickness.

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                  right, casualties are a superset of killed and MIA, but we see that overall casualties on both sides are about even and far lower than mainstream western media pretends

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                    I don’t know what the guy commented on; if the issue was about the amounts being reported or the difference between the sides. There’s so much reporting on Russian losses but not much on Ukraine’s. I’d been wondering how they were fairing. Definitely a lot worse comparotively, if the numbers are accurate. Ukraine’s pop is like a quarter of Russia’s.

                    The media usually reports casualties, not just deaths and MIA. Probably because it makes things look worse, but it’s also useful to know how many people can no longer fight.

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                  Why do racist fascists come to the fediverse?

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                  raging racism isn’t helping beat the fash allegations lmfao

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