• RunningInRVA@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        Yes, I was suggesting that you, your book, or whatever, is mistaken. It’s not a double-negative. It’s just two words with negative word charges. They do not contradict one another’s meaning in the binary relationship of true and false.

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        4 days ago

        How would you word this different and have the same meaning?

        Using “approves” is close but it changes the meaning of the headline and implies that their approval of this is needed when it is not.

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            3 days ago

            That means something different. Like I said, that implies that we need the courts permission which is not the case.

            I can tell you are not going to let this go, but it will help you in life to understand when you are wrong and be ok admitting that to yourself.

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              3 days ago

              Wow no need to be an asshole. Whatever, guess I forgot nothing a court ruled has ever had weight my bad

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            2 days ago

            “Local man allows wife to eat dinner.”

            vs

            “Local man declines to block wife from eating dinner.”

            The meaning is very different.

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              2 days ago

              Yeah, when you change the context of the sentence, the meaning changes too. “A court allows” and “a man allows” aren’t the same thing.

              The court had an issue brought before it. It could either allow or disallow the usage of the maps. There isn’t an in-between. Making a big deal over using “allow” for a court is so mind-numbingly, insufferably pedantic that I can’t believe real people are actually up voting it.

              “Approves” I can see a problem with because it implies that the court has made a final ruling. But being mad about it because of some moralizing nonsense is absolutely ridiculous.

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                2 days ago

                These kinds of small wording differences are one of the most common ways for news outlets to intentionally spread misinformation. If you already know what the current laws are, you’ll know what actually happened. Otherwise, “declines to block” tells you that there exists pressure to prevent something that is currently allowed. “Allows” tells you that it wasn’t previously allowed without their approval and they granted that approval.

                It could either allow or disallow […]. There isn’t an in-between.

                So in summary, there are exactly four "in-between"s.

                • It was previously allowed, and it is still allowed
                • It was previously allowed, and it is now not allowed
                • It was previously not allowed, and it is now allowed
                • It was previously not allowed, and it still not allowed

                Which would map to each of the following respectively

                • “declines to block”
                • “blocks”
                • “allows”
                • “declines to allow”

                What you’re saying is that it should map to

                • “allows”
                • “blocks”
                • “allows”
                • “blocks”

                Which, besides being inconsistent with how those words are used in every day English, also reduces how much information you receive.