• Ostrakon@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    I am sure these figures are accurate and can be trusted. There’s no way the Chinese or North Korean government would ever lie about these figures.

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      9 hours ago

      Part of the ideology of white-supremacy, is that proximity to whiteness means trustworthiness and authenticity, and distance from it means untrustworthiness.

      So white supremacists think only the western countries (and their allies like South Korea, Japan, and other US military base countries) data and educational institutions can be trusted, while the numbers coming from any country opposed to them must inherently be a lie.

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      10 hours ago

      And Taiwan or South Korea never lied too and their real numbers are definitely lower than this shit.

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        11 hours ago

        The framing and double-standard is chauvinist and bad.

        But there are reasons to be skeptical of suicide stats worldwide due to cultural ideas and norms around suicide. Like, look at the US. It was common practice for coroners to put accident as cause of death even if it was clearly suicide - and still is, to some degree. Only recently have statisticians began including certain other cases of “accidental” death as suicide (some single car crashes, gun “accidents”, ODs, etc).

        And different countries have different methods for reporting out on suicide. It’s not founded to say countries are intentionally skewing suicide stats, but it would be constructive to be skeptical about how those figures were arrived at before believing memes without citations.

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          11 hours ago

          I would have no issue with them saying suicide stats are often inaccurate due to x, y, or z reason.

          What they instead chose to say was the typical chauvinist bullshit of the evil Asiatic hoardes in China and the DPRK can’t be trusted to report anything truthfully nonsense.