Secretary of War adapted a monologue from the Quentin Tarantino film which purports to be from the Bible but is made up

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    I gotta say, the press photos of Hegseth didn’t get any more flattering ever since he whined about them.

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    So he performed something Tarantino made up? In a broadcast?

    That’s a copyright infringement, right?

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    Pete Hegseth. The very dumbest there is. When you absolutely, positively got to have the dumbest motherfucker in the room, accept no substitutes.

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      Bruh…

      There’s sermons at every PT and almost every function.

      The Chair Force especially has been overrun with Protestant extremists in their academy.

      Like, if you think this is bad, it’s worth going down that rabbit hole to realize how bad it actually is.

      https://truthout.org/articles/underground-group-of-cadets-says-air-force-academy-controlled-by-evangelicals/

      That article is 16 years old and it’s only gotten worse. They just put Erika Kirk on the board:

      https://www.military.com/feature/2026/03/10/erika-kirk-and-air-force-academy-board-what-appointment-reveals-about-panel.html

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          The gross part is how they “recruit with daughters”.

          They raise their own daughters deep in the religion, then push them to do anything to get a young officer to marry them so they can convert them.

          Like, it happens all over, but nowhere worse than AF academy. In SC there’s a marine Academy and a Navy Nuclear school, they’re out on the prowl there too. Anywhere young military members are, you’ll find a disproportionate amount of young attractive evangelical women willing to go absolutely crazy and then pull a 180 after the wedding night.

          It’s like a psuedo rumspringer the Amish do. As soon as their daughters are 18, they’re given the green the light to commit any kind of sin to engrapt a husband for the cause.

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            Isn’t a good Christian wife supposed to do anything to keep her husband happy in bed? I don’t know what 180 they are supposed to do, but anyone who wouldn’t be ashamed to set foot in a church after what we do isn’t the right woman for me.

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    Secretary of War adapted a monologue from the Quentin Tarantino film which purports to be from the Bible but is made up

    No he didn’t. What the fuck? He literally sources it in his speech. He sources it semi-correctly, but this subheader is provably an outright lie. He didn’t make it himself, and he announced it was modified from the Bible.

    “This prayer was recited by Sandy 1, which is one of the Sandies, to all Sandies, all those A-10 crews, prior to all CSAR missions, but especially this CSAR mission, which happened in real time,” Hegseth said. “They call it CSAR 25:17, which I think is meant to reflect Ezekiel 25:17.” —Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth

    Did Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth adapt it and purport it to be from the Bible, Middle East Eye, you piece of shit rag?

    Is it not bad enough that he’s wiping his ass with the separation of church and state? Do we need to sprinkle in disinformation for extra clicks?


    @[email protected] correctly points out I misinterpreted the “purported to be from the Bible” part and that it’s referring to how Jules, not Pete Hegseth, purported it to be from the Bible. I apologize for that. The claim “Secretary of War [Pete Hegseth] adapted the monologue” is still, however, a clear-cut lie. Hegseth quoted CSAR 25:17 and didn’t realize that the adapted verse itself was adapted from Pulp Fiction; that isn’t Pete Hegseth adapting anything, just quoting someone else and mistaking how they derived it.

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      He literally did.

      Reported here:

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/16/hegseth-pulp-fiction-ezekiel-prayer

      here:

      https://variety.com/2026/film/news/pete-hegseth-pulp-fiction-fake-bible-verse-prayer-service-1236723446/

      and here:

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2026/04/16/did-pete-hegseths-prayer-sound-like-pulp-fiction-quote-heres-why/89639322007/

      Hegseth’s quote:

      "“The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men,” Hegseth said.

      "Blessed is he who, in the name of camaraderie and duty, shepherd the lost through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children.

      “And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to capture and destroy my brother. And you will know my call sign is Sandy 1 when I lay my vengeance upon thee, and amen,” he added."

      The line from Pulp Fiction which is not actually in the bible:

      " “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children.

      “And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.”"

      The ACTUAL Ezekiel 25:17 reads:

      “17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.”

      The additions Hegseth made were completely written for Pulp Fiction, he’s just that stupid.

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        The additions Hegseth made were completely written for Pulp Fiction, he’s just that stupid.

        Jordan, your own Guardian article:

        the words spoken by Hegseth on Wednesday, which he stated were from so-called prayer CSAR 2517 (combat search and rescue), was commonplace in military circles, and was read to crews that rescued an air force colonel from an Iranian mountain this month after his fighter jet was shot down.

        And please read the quote from him in my comment.

        Unless you’re insisting that CSAR 25:17 isn’t a real thing that was used and Petey made it up himself, he did not adapt it or claim to have adapted it. That’s not what an adaptation is; that’s rereading somebody else’s quote, which he sourced to USAF pilots.

        If I quote something verbatim you’ve said and atrribute it to you, that’s not an adaptation; that’s a quote.

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          Read what he actually said which is a line by line lift from Pulp Fiction. He’s too stupid to realize it’s from Pulp Fiction.

          Whether or not it’s CSAR 25:17 is not relevant, the original source is, in fact, Pulp Fiction.

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            Yes, he didn’t realize it’s from Pulp Fiction. I show as much in the linked comment. Since apparently nobody’s willing to even check a link anymore, here’s (nearly) the entire comment verbatim:

            He knew it wasn’t an actual Bible quote, but he did think it was a modified version of Ezekiel 25:17. Which it definitionally is. The actual string is:

            Ezekiel 25:17 –> (edit: Bodyguard Kiba modification) –> Pulp Fiction modification –> USAF modification

            Whereas he thought it was:

            Ezekiel 25:17 –> USAF modification

            I think that’s understandable if you’ve never seen Pulp Fiction (because you just assume the Pulp Fiction stuff was the USAF’s addition), but it’s still pretty funny.

            The actual problem here, as usual, is separation of church and state being trampled over to make way for Abrahamic prayers in the US federal government.

            If you think that means “Pete Hegseth adapted it” and not “Pete Hegseth quoted an adaptation of it he didn’t write and acknowledged as much but didn’t realize what the chain of sources looked like”, then I have no idea at all what to tell you. It’s beyond a clear-cut lie, and people on Lemmy still want to argue over it for some reason.

            If you don’t think that, then I have zero idea why you’re trying to explain something I already explained more concisely in the linked comment nobody will bother to read.

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          You’re being incredibly picky on one line in the article that he adapted it when it was already adapted. The headline is correct, “Hegseth reads fake Bible verse from Pulp Fiction during Pentagon sermon”.

          He read it. And it’s of course fake. I’m gonna say he had to know it was based on pulp fiction and not based on Ezekiel.

          And even more absurd, he read it during a Christian prayer to a Christian congregation (also fucked up that this was at the Pentagon). He’s willfully combining made up I’m 14 and edgy shit with actual religion, in a public and government setting. This is the epitome of a teenager talking smack on call of duty, except it’s in public during official business.

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            You’re being incredibly picky on one line in the article

            I mean hey, I’m elated that this is an actual debatable opinion instead of insisting “no, bro, he totally adapted it”. I don’t assume he knew it was adapted from Pulp Fiction and not directly adapted from the Bible, because I have no way to know if he’s watched Pulp Fiction or would even remember that quote. If he thought it went Ezekiel 25:17 –> CSAR 25:17, he would just accordingly assume the USAF piled on a bunch of stuff from the original – no different than Pulp Fiction already did. It’s not impossible, but I have zero reason to assume it by default. If you think that he knew, god bless you, that’s also a valid opinion, and I’m not going to stop you from assuming the worst of Kegsbreath.

            As for being “picky” over “he adapted it”, this isn’t just a line (although it’d still be a blatant lie if it were); it’s the subheader of the article, which, if you’re not that familiar with journalism (not a dig; some people just aren’t), is supposed to quickly summarize the piece/supplement the headline in a way that’d be too lengthy for the headline. The subheader is literally, in clear English, claiming that Pete Hegseth modified the quote himself, which is a complete load of disinformative bullshit just meant to make him look worse when this clear violation of separation of church and state is already plenty bad.

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              There’s not much more to say. You basically found something that’s barely more than a typo (they should have added another “read”, but it’s fully explained in the article).

              All you need to say was “in case you read only the subheader, he didn’t adapt it, it was already adapted” but instead you’re running around screaming at everyone and everything “Lies lies it’s all lies! Everything is lies! Don’t believe anything! Shit rag! Disinformation!”

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                barely more than a typo

                • Oh-so-coincidentally creates a blatant lie.
                • At the very start of the subheader.
                • Not corrected after over 6 hours.
                • By a likely Qatari-backed propaganda outlet who refuse to disclose their owner or funding.

                Mmmmmhhhhhmmmm. So I’m naïve to assume Pete Hegseth might not be big into Pulp Fiction, but I’m getting all picky with Middle East Eye instead of following these ridiculous mental gymnastics to arrive at a completely undeserved good-faith conclusion.

                Hilarious.

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      If you had a few more sentences, you wouldn’t have had to type all that…

      The first few lines of the prayer were written by Tarantino and Roger Avary for the hit film Pulp Fiction. The second part of the verse is taken from the Bible, where the speaker condemns the Philistines and the Cherethims, who were alleged to be enemies of the Israelites.

      In Pulp Fiction, the character played by Samuel L Jackson falsely claimed the entirety of the verse was Ezekiel 25:17. He utters the verse before executing a terrified young criminal.___

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        If you had a few more sentences, you wouldn’t have had to type all that…

        If you’d read the linked comment, you wouldn’t have to act like I don’t know that.

        If MEE is saying that Jules purports that it’s from the Bible, then sure.

        That doesn’t at all explain the part where, according to them, Pete Hegseth adapted it.

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          What do you think the word “adapted” means?

          Because I think that’s the problem here.

          But to be honest, I’m probably not gonna put much more effort in to helping

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            What do you think the word “adapted” means?

            ??? What the fuck are you talking about? If I adapt something, that means I changed it from an original source. The subheader reads: “Secretary of War [Pete Hegseth] adapted a monologue”. Hegseth is quoting CSAR 25:17, so unless you think that’s completely made up and Hegseth just derived it himself from Pulp Fiction falsely claiming the pilots recited it, then “Secretary of War adapted” is a lie. Do you not understand basic English? Do I need to throw an English dictionary at you? Maybe it’s baser than that? Do I need to teach you how verbs work in English?

            If I write:

            But to be honest, I’m probably not gonna put much more effort in to helping —givessomefucks

            Does that mean I adapted that from you? No, it means I quoted you. Jesus fucking christ.