The Democratic votes on the pair of resolutions from Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., were not enough to overcome universal opposition from Republicans.
Still, the votes represented a watershed moment in the party’s relationship with Israel and the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Israel had continued to enjoy strong support from Democratic leaders, despite outrage from the base over the war on Gaza. Sanders said the votes signaled that party leaders are finally taking note.
“This is where the American people are. The polls are very clear: The overwhelming majority of American people do not want to continue to give weapons to Netanyahu and his horrific wars in the Mideast,” he said. “I think the Democrats have caught on to that. It took a little while, but they caught on to that. But Republicans, I think, are standing in opposition to millions of their own supporters.”
…now? They just did this now? What was the inflection point?
Only thing I can think of, is that the world is turning against Israel. Including Italy, France, UK, Spain, South Korea, and even Saudi Arabia is shutting down their sport-washing projects like LIV Golf and cutting off their Bonds investments in USA.
They were probably told to wait until Israel got most of what it wanted and then were allowed to do this to save face. Fuck all democrats who voted yes previously, this will not absolve them. They deserve to rot in the same cesspit with Trump and Netanyahu.
Hey Dems, this is the kind of hings we want. Keep it up. Do actual healthcare and debt reduction next!
75%?
I’m assuming they know it won’t pass because of the Republican majority so they are virtue signaling. I can’t trust either side.
Call their bluff and give them the majority they need yet secretly hope they don’t receive?
If they did this about 2 years ago we wouldn’t have Trump.
I guess an eventual response is better than no response. Although for many is this juat a decision to win votes? Like I want representatives that have morals, but I suppose ones that listen to their voters is better than the current situation
I too can never quite shake the feeling that at least sometimes the supposed opposition is just theatre. Especially when they know it won’t make any functional difference, they can say “well, gosh darn it, we tried” when in reality they’ll always magically never have enough votes to do the right thing.
And if in some miracle they do, the Parliamentarian will just stop it.
It’s nice, but we need meaningful campaign finance reform. We need to get Israeli money, and all foreign money, as far away from our political campaigns as possible.
Maybe I’m wrong about this, but I suspect a lot of Dems knew it wouldn’t pass and are virtue signaling. Let’s see if there’s a blue wave in November and if so, whether they still have the backbone to cut off Israel.
This wouldn’t be an issue if we just had campaign finance reform.
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Are Democrats feeling the Bern at last?
It was safe to vote in order to appease the voters without actually doing anything because they knew the Republicans would shut it down.
If the vote were closer and couldn’t survive Democratic unanimity, just enough of the rotating selection would oppose it to keep it from passing while the rest saved face.
It’s a bad play I think if that’s their plan. It shows that criticizing Israel is fair game, which has pretty much been against everything said in the past. It’s an admission that they think that what Israel is doing is wrong. You can’t put that back. AIPAC would not be in favor of this. If this is just appeasement, it’s at least appeasement that can be pointed at to show what’s wrong.
They may think of it like appeasement
But this is only the beginning of the anti-zionist snowball
I desperately hope you’re right, but I suspect this is naïvely optimistic.
Israel will only get more unpopular
More and more people see day after day the billions we spend sending weapons to Israel’s genocide and ethnic cleansing campaigns, billions that aren’t being used to help everyday americans
This type of resentment and anger is only growing, and will only grow faster as material conditions continue to worsen, which the vast majority of Americans are experiencing
So on top of the, rightfully, moral outrage at what Israel is, it’s also fuelled by that economic outrage, and both are only increasing
With berniecrat types, like Zohran and others, we see massive grassroots motion precisely because they can authentically tackle both those aspects. Calling out the truth of Apartheid and Genocide, demanding Divestment, on top of taxing the rich, moving all those funds to instead help cost of living at home
More and more berniecrats are winning races across the country because people are demanding a disruption to the status quo. The scare mongering of the socialist label doesn’t work anymore. People don’t care, they just hear that those policies can improve things. And as those policies do improve things, it only gets more and more popular
A Candidate whose unapologetically anti-zionist shows authenticity, so people are more charitable to that candidates socialist policies and more willing to give them a chance. The Republican policies aren’t working, the Liberal Democrat policies aren’t working, so fuck it, we ball
The Democratic Party has shown time and time again that they are willing to vote in line with the people if and only if their vote doesn’t change the outcome.
I’ll believe their votes on Israel mean anything when their votes – well – mean anything for the result.
Imagine if you will - a world where we would have had Bernie instead of Sweet Potato Hitler V1.
Never forget kids: The rich are the true and only enemy.
Hell, I’m still imagining a world where we had Gore instead of Junior.
Two easy ones:
No 9-11. There would have eventually been an attempt somehow, hell, maybe it would have been worse, like a dirty bomb. But the ball wouldn’t have been dropped on staying alert. Climate activism. Still think it was far too late even by 2000 to prevent the worst that’s coming (which tells you were I think we are now), but at least Gore knew the science and would have tried to change something.
Still would have had our problems, but it’s such a different path, it’s hard to say what would have still happened.
The Democratic base’s shift on Israel was recent and seismic, and the leadership is lagging a bit. They will come around to the new party consensus soon, and the Democratic party will be the anti-Zionist party. They will have to in order to win elections; it is already an 80/20 issue among Democratic voters, and that 80 is only going to grow.
The GOP base is likely to remain more split on the issue for a while. Most of their youngest voters are essentially groypers at this point (whether they self-identify with that label or not). They hate Israel and Jews in general. But the larger portion of Republicans are evangelical Christian Zionists who see Israel as instrumental in their end times prophecy. Trump and GOP leadership is still catering solely to this group, and party leadership could remain locked in this mode for while.
Republicans may become even more Zionist as AIPAC funding and Zionist former Democrats flee the Democratic party to join the other side. Another political realignment in a decade of political realignments.
Netanyahu did this. Allowing support for Israel to become a partisan issue in the US will go down as one of the classic blunders.
It’s not a partisan issue unfortunately. Sure Democrats are only focusing on slobbering over BB’s tip. Republicans are trying to gobble the shaft and balls. But either is inappropriate.
I would say mostly, not overwhelmingly.
The dems are whores for corporate money and this war actually threaten said money
Would have been nice if their line in the sand was genocide but I guess this is still better than the alternative
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