U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration’s top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

“And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war,” Vance said.

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    “bad things happened, fuck it I’ll help more bad things happen” will never be the reasonable take you’re trying to say it is.

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      That’s not what I said. I said “shit is bad and I have a choice between shit getting worse fast or slow, so I don’t care which I choose because both options lead to shit going bad”.

      If you had to pick between getting fucking in the ass with a 9 inch dildo or a 6 inch dildo that will eventually grow to 9 inches, do you really care that the 6 inches is smaller right now? Or would you prefer to not get fucked in the ass in the first place? You probably wouldn’t be getting fucked in the ass by a 9 inch dildo if the alternative was to not get fucked in the ass at all.

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        “shit is bad and I have a choice between shit getting worse fast or slow, so I don’t care which I choose because both options lead to shit going bad”.

        This is so fucking ignorant. People are literally dying worldwide because of the actions of these people in 2025

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          Yeah. And none of it would’ve happened if the democrats had actually tried to appeal to their voters instead of pulling the same “but our hands are tied so we won’t even try” shit they’ve been doing for decades. Do you want a pad on the back for it happening in 2025 and not 2022-2023? Had Harris been voted it would be happening in 2029. You’re missing the big picture. This was always going to happen because there’s no pushback against fascism, there’s only kicking the can down the road.

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        10 hours ago

        You just illustrated in your own analogy perfectly what our point is. These people never had a real choice if they cared about the outcome, they just wanted to feel blameless for the bad choice they wanted to make.

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          So you’d rather get fucked by a 6 inch dildo than demand to not get fucked as all. Got it.

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            Your analogy explicitly lays out the options and just whining about there not existing a third option does not change anything.

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              And there’s no third option because anyone who falls out of line to demand more gets told to fall back in line. Case in point blaming the sitouts. They’re sitting out because they don’t want to get fucked and you’re flaming them for not wanting a 6 inch dildo up their ass.

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                If sitting out somehow resulted in a redo instead of the worse option winning, you’d have a point.

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                  The point I’m making is that if the outcome of the vote doesn’t really change anything for you then the vote itself is also meaningless. Let me use a different analogy. Let’s say you don’t like cheesecakes and you don’t like chocolate brownies. What you do like is a nice Creme Brulee. If there’s no option for a Creme brulee and you MUST choose between a cheesecake or a chocolate brownie does it really matter which one you get? You don’t want either of them. So the choice is meaningless.

                  If this was a restaurant you’d say you don’t want dessert and think to yourself what a shitty restaurant for not serving creme brulees. But because this is the American political system you think it’s logical people shouldn’t except a creme brulee and instead should be happy getting the cheesecake because they’re allergic to chocolate.

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                    You can cry about it all you want, but in the system we have right now one of two people was going to win and by not voting for Harris, you helped Trump win.

                    All your analogies are fucking awful, by the way. A better one here would have been your town has two restaurants, a Chinese place and an Italian place. But you want Mexican so you decide to just not eat. Even that is still flawed because you’ll come up with some BS answer like “I’ll cook at home” to sidestep the problem.

                    And if you think invading fucking Michigan and starting a war in Iraq after mass pardoning a bunch of insurrectionists (some of whom have since faced charges of child molestation) in addition to all the other horrendous shit Trump is doing is somehow not different from a milquetoast establishment candidate who would have maintained the status quo, then I don’t think there’s a sensible discussion to be had.

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                And there’s no third option because anyone who falls out of line to demand more gets told to fall back in line.

                This isn’t happening though. They’re told to vote in fucking primaries.

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            I find your focus on assfucking strange. It’s almost as if you’re as afraid of it as these sitouts are of admitting responsibility.

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              Clearly it’s the only analogy that works with you people so I’m going to keep using it. I think it’s weird that you’re defending getting fucked by a 6 inch dildo instead of agreeing that you didn’t want it in the first place.