• stumu415@lemmy.zip
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    5 hours ago

    Rutte is a traitorous cunt who destroyed the liveablity in the Netherlands and is now actively trying to destroy Europe and NATO. Just because him and Trump bonded on Epstein island means the world will suffer.

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    Judging by Australian government statements the US never even made formal requests for assistance to its allies anyway. Dunno if Hegseth just didn’t know how to do this and no-one competent saw fit to inform him - I can buy that he told Donny he had though.

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      Gorbachev sending a letter to George H. W. Bush (which he would not respond to) practically begging to tell what kind of government he would like to see in the USSR is my #1 all time pathetic boot-licking given to a US president by a foreign leader. But Rutte’s “daddy” comment is a close second.

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    19 hours ago

    He’s in an awkward spot. He basically has to schmooze Trump so that Trump doesn’t pull out of NATO.

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      I feel like it’s well known that kissing up to Trump is the wrong move. Deep down he hates that and doesn’t respect it. He might bluster at first but eventually he respects people who stand up to him or at least don’t give in and kiss his ass (Kim, Sheinbaum, Xi).

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      He critisized the nato members who did not accept to help directly the usa war of agression. Stop making excuses for this shitty person

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            Well from his point of view he probably does feel like he has no choice. That doesn’t justify what Trump did and it doesn’t justify supporting him though

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              We don’t give a damn. Anybody who can’t condemn genocide threats is in no position to be in any position of power. He also blame nato members for not supporting the illegal war

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              He’s aware that he has choices but won’t do them because he has to let Israel finish it’s genocides/ethnic-cleansings first.

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      At this point NATO is a meaningless accord like every accord with the US. See also the ceasefire they jus threw in the bin.

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        Except NATO didn’t join the war. These are just words to keep the big baby happy. Trump won’t live for ever.

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      Hopefully it works, Trump will be gone soon, but if the US start pulling out of NATO it’ll take a lot more to rejoin. Imho, the NATO guy is playing the best game he can.

      Hopefully after Trump a more moderate president will arrive, there can’t be too many like him. 😰

      Imagine the NATO guy says “ok, we don’t need you USA” what then?

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293174/nato-russia-military-comparison/

      Number of aircraft by country in NATO
      number of aircraft

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        Hopefully after Trump a more moderate president will arrive, there can’t be too many like him. 😰

        One thing I like about Trump being the president is just how much he exposed the power dynamic of the imperial core. He exposed just how vile these countries are and how subservient all the vassal states are to it.

        NATO is just another tool for the US to project power over the world. Mark Rutte’s words! :)

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      Why the fuck does NATO need the US? Aren’t there enough powerful countries in NATO without them? Maybe it’s time to move away from over-reliance on the US on defence like everything else.