I feel like it’s well known that kissing up to Trump is the wrong move. Deep down he hates that and doesn’t respect it. He might bluster at first but eventually he respects people who stand up to him or at least don’t give in and kiss his ass (Kim, Sheinbaum, Xi).
Interesting argument. On the otherhand Kim, Putin and Xi all have a lot of real power (be that economic, manpower, firepower) and, at least in the eyes of the USA, are it’s traditional opposition. I’m not sure he has any choice but to respect that power.
I think trump knows who he can bully and when he can get away with it.
Well from his point of view he probably does feel like he has no choice. That doesn’t justify what Trump did and it doesn’t justify supporting him though
We don’t give a damn. Anybody who can’t condemn genocide threats is in no position to be in any position of power. He also blame nato members for not supporting the illegal war
Why the fuck does NATO need the US? Aren’t there enough powerful countries in NATO without them? Maybe it’s time to move away from over-reliance on the US on defence like everything else.
Longterm thats a great goal. But the war in Ukraine is happening as we speak, and the inly thing stopping Putin from spreading the war to the rest of Europe is his fear of NATO.
Personally I am not comfortable with the only thing preventing Russia from attacking us is their goodwill, since if they seem to be in critically short supply of that
Russia has zero interest in conquering Europe, this is just the excuse NATO gives to justify increasing the budget and thus profits for millitary contractors and private industry.
Only 3 of the people commenting here are Lemmy.ml accounts, and one of them agrees with your positions. I really think you should take a step back and reconsider your understanding.
Hopefully it works, Trump will be gone soon, but if the US start pulling out of NATO it’ll take a lot more to rejoin. Imho, the NATO guy is playing the best game he can.
Hopefully after Trump a more moderate president will arrive, there can’t be too many like him. 😰
Imagine the NATO guy says “ok, we don’t need you USA” what then?
The EU needs either the US Empire, or to smooth things over with Russia and/or pivot more to China. NATO is just a tool of US imperial power projection in Europe, but the US Empire is pivoting away from Europe and towards Asia and Latin and South America.
Hopefully after Trump a more moderate president will arrive, there can’t be too many like him. 😰
One thing I like about Trump being the president is just how much he exposed the power dynamic of the imperial core. He exposed just how vile these countries are and how subservient all the vassal states are to it.
NATO is just another tool for the US to project power over the world. Mark Rutte’s words! :)
He’s in an awkward spot. He basically has to schmooze Trump so that Trump doesn’t pull out of NATO.
I feel like it’s well known that kissing up to Trump is the wrong move. Deep down he hates that and doesn’t respect it. He might bluster at first but eventually he respects people who stand up to him or at least don’t give in and kiss his ass (Kim, Sheinbaum, Xi).
Interesting argument. On the otherhand Kim, Putin and Xi all have a lot of real power (be that economic, manpower, firepower) and, at least in the eyes of the USA, are it’s traditional opposition. I’m not sure he has any choice but to respect that power.
I think trump knows who he can bully and when he can get away with it.
He critisized the nato members who did not accept to help directly the usa war of agression. Stop making excuses for this shitty person
I’m not trying to justify his words, I’m just speculating as to his motivations
Yes you do. Tou are saying he has no choice but licking Trump boots
Well from his point of view he probably does feel like he has no choice. That doesn’t justify what Trump did and it doesn’t justify supporting him though
We don’t give a damn. Anybody who can’t condemn genocide threats is in no position to be in any position of power. He also blame nato members for not supporting the illegal war
He’s aware that he has choices but won’t do them because he has to let Israel finish it’s genocides/ethnic-cleansings first.
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At this point NATO is a meaningless accord like every accord with the US. See also the ceasefire they jus threw in the bin.
Except NATO didn’t join the war. These are just words to keep the big baby happy. Trump won’t live for ever.
NATO countries have served as staging grounds for the US Empire.
Why the fuck does NATO need the US? Aren’t there enough powerful countries in NATO without them? Maybe it’s time to move away from over-reliance on the US on defence like everything else.
No, NATO is thoroughly dependent on the US, it’s essentially a means for US imperial power projection. The EU is thoroughly defanged.
There aren’t.
Longterm thats a great goal. But the war in Ukraine is happening as we speak, and the inly thing stopping Putin from spreading the war to the rest of Europe is his fear of NATO.
Trump is objectively a greater threat to attack another NATO country than Putin is.
Why would Russia try to invade the rest of Europe lmao
Personally I am not comfortable with the only thing preventing Russia from attacking us is their goodwill, since if they seem to be in critically short supply of that
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Funny you need to add “land” because NATO bombed the hell out of Yugoslavia
Say what?
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It’s crazy the extent to which mainstream liberals are living in a manufactured reality
I’m not a mainstream liberal but nice try
Russia has zero interest in conquering Europe, this is just the excuse NATO gives to justify increasing the budget and thus profits for millitary contractors and private industry.
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Are you stupid?
You’re on a Lemmy.ml community. Do you have a counter-point, or do you think pointing out that I’m a communist is a counter-point by itself?
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If you walk into a bar and “everyone” is an asshole, I have some bad news for you
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Only 3 of the people commenting here are Lemmy.ml accounts, and one of them agrees with your positions. I really think you should take a step back and reconsider your understanding.
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that’s exactly Putin’s plan with Agent Krasnov
Who’s agent Krasnov?
thats what the libs think trumps secret russian agent name is. no im not joking.
Hopefully it works, Trump will be gone soon, but if the US start pulling out of NATO it’ll take a lot more to rejoin. Imho, the NATO guy is playing the best game he can.
Hopefully after Trump a more moderate president will arrive, there can’t be too many like him. 😰
Imagine the NATO guy says “ok, we don’t need you USA” what then?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293174/nato-russia-military-comparison/
Number of aircraft by country in NATO
The EU needs either the US Empire, or to smooth things over with Russia and/or pivot more to China. NATO is just a tool of US imperial power projection in Europe, but the US Empire is pivoting away from Europe and towards Asia and Latin and South America.
One thing I like about Trump being the president is just how much he exposed the power dynamic of the imperial core. He exposed just how vile these countries are and how subservient all the vassal states are to it.
NATO is just another tool for the US to project power over the world. Mark Rutte’s words! :)