Although Iran does not border the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, Yemen does, and Iran is closely allied with the Houthis, the Yemeni militant group that previously conducted dozens of strikes against Israel-linked vessels in the Red Sea in 2023 and 2024 in response to the war in Gaza.

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    Oh right, more escalation! I see no other possibility but for that to have a productive ending.

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      yes they love it because they dont feel the full pain of this war tucked safely away in their bunker. Thats all on their citizens who have to live their lives day to day.

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    That’s smart, actually. Trump might not care about the Gulf being flattened, or realise that also is bad for the market, but another Strait? He understands that (now).

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      Genocide begets resistance and technology closes the gaps between rich states and oppressed ones.

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        Except Ukraine and Iran are on opposite sides.

        More like, war continues to change, but the age of guerillas is still ongoing.

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          Fair enough, considering Ukraine is an imperial proxy vs Iran and Yemen, which are independent countries acting in self-defense.

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              The reason Yemen is not an imperial proxy is because it’s a democratic, revolutionary government acting within its own interests. Proxies work for the empire at a detriment to themselves.

              For instance, Ukraine refused a peace plan in favor of a protracted war because the UK and US wanted to use Ukraine to weaken Russia.

              The Yemenis are in conflict with the Saudis and any country allied with them, which includes Israel. This is because the Saudis wanted regime change in Yemen and has split the country in two.

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              Agreed, and wouldn’t the US be an imperial proxy of Israel, by the same definition? So this really a Israel vs Iran war when you get right down to it. Too bad everyone else is being swept up in it. I guess thats war for you, especially when Israel is involved.

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                wouldn’t the US be an imperial proxy of Israel

                No. I don’t see how you could think or justify the US being a proxy of Israel.

                It may be the other way around, however one of the two countries is clearly stronger. One of the two countries could pull out of the war by just leaving, if they really wanted to.

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      i honestly expected the next transportation revolution to be a different one (maybe boat “drones”, so we don’t have to have nearly as much crew on tankers and ships and whatnot, that had been my prediction. i rather enjoyed being wrong on this one, in the way one can enjoy armchair predictions) but this is really interesting to watch how the war in ukraine and now around iran is pushing tech

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    If anyone wants a good video covering this strait and other important ones, here’s one by TLDR News Global:

    Mapping the World’s (other) Maritime Chokepoints - YouTube

    • Something like 16 % of all sea‑borne trade by value passes through the Bab‑el‑Mandeb compared to about 6 % for the Strait of Hormuz.
    • In normal times something like 20 % of all oil and gas trade consumed by the world passes through the Strait of Hormuz compared to more like 10 % for the Bab‑el‑Mandeb.
    • Saudi Arabia started relying more heavily on exports via the Red Sea which mostly flow out towards Asia via the Bab‑el‑Mandeb
    • Most sea‑borne trade between Europe and Asia passes through the Bab‑el‑Mandeb.
    • The next most direct maritime route includes an 8,000 km detour around Africa.
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      Something like 16 % of all sea‑borne trade by value passes through the Bab‑el‑Mandeb

      Is that still the case? AFAIK a lot of shipping companies avoid it since 2023. And that’s also an important point, unlike the Strait of Hormuz the Bab-el-Mandeb can be avoided at the cost of longer shipping times.

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      Lets shoot at some innocent ships and their innocent crews. Terrorism is fun! Hell yeah!

      Note: My comment is a joke. Unlike the comment I am replying to.

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        Are they shooting those ships without warning? Edit: Israel blockades Palestine, US blockades Cuba, but it’s terrorism when Iran or Yemen do it. Sure, bud.

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          Are they shooting those ships without warning?

          So if I warn civilians that I am going to shoot them first, then it is OK to shoot them. According to your advanced moral theories, I assume.

          Edit: Israel blockades Palestine, US blockades Cuba, but it’s terrorism when Iran or Yemen do it. Sure, bud.

          So because “Israel bad” or “US bad”, it is good that the Houthies shoot random innocent ship crews?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

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            Random innocent ship crews aren’t being targeted, ships that provide oil to Israel and US forces are, they directly support the terrorism done by these regimes. It’s like saying “what you are doing supports the inhuman war against my people, the fuel you sell to the genociding army provides the power for their planes to bomb our schools and massacre our children. We will stop ships from supporting this war effort, you can willingly leave your ship or we will disable it.”

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            Note: My comment is a joke. Unlike the comment I am replying to.

            Are you still joking, or is it that you never were, because you seem to be tripling down on your original shitty joke-but-not-really-joking.

            EDITED to add: 19 day old account, lol. Should’ve known. Blocked.

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            Oh shit, a link to “whataboutism” lmao. Suck my dick and balls you fuckin loser.

            Listen, Iran was attacked. They are overmatched militarily by the US and Israel. One key bit of leverage they have is enforcing a blockade of oil against the countries that are bombing them. Note that there is effectively no blockade for non-hostile countries.

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        Some of your other comments around the site have been pretty gross and clearly propogandist. So I imagine a lot of people just reflexively downvote you now. You may need to make a new account. This handle has lasted just under 1.5 Scaramuchis of time. I’ll say one thing about zionists though, they always come back, like a bad penny-- like its your job or something. See you back here when you open your next account. We’ll keep the light on for you.

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    Funny little old article from 2025:

    On Sunday, the head of Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard, Gen. Hossein Salami, denied his country was involved in the Houthis’ attacks, saying it “plays no role in setting the national or operational policies” of the militant groups it is allied with across the region, according to state-run TV.

    Because of course Iran had previously blatantly falsely claimed that they had no control over their proxies, the Houthis.

    While fuck Trump and his war crimes in all kinds of way, this war is ultimately a result of Iran playing stupid games with their terrorist proxies. Whether Iran will win stupid prizes, we will see.

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        So Iranian proxies attacking Israel for years was completely irrelevant to Israel attacking Iran? Bullshit.

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          So Israel entrenching their apartheid state for decades instead of working towards a more collaborative and egalitarian future with their neighboring countries and cultures was completely irrelevant to Israel attacking Iran? Bullshit.

          You’re cherry-picking one-off justifications in a context that has history going back for literal millennia.

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            besides israel has been attacking iran for decades, and instigating most of the violence in the region.

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            instead of working towards a more collaborative and egalitarian future with their neighboring countries and cultures

            You mean the ones that have “death to Israel” as a slogan? C’mon people. Don’t lionize Iran just because you’re angry at Israel and the US.

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              Did you ever stop to think why they say that?

              Counldnt have anything to do with the way Isriel has treated muslim neighbours could it now.

              Edit: let me be clear.

              Fuck the Iranian government and its burtal oppression of its people.

              But fuck the US for making it worse.

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                They’ve said it since the '70s. Maybe instead of entrenching their theocratic dictatorship for decades they should be working towards a more collaborative and egalitarian future with their neighboring countries and cultures.

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              I’m not glorifying or supporting nihilistic slogans like that. I’m saying that there’s a reason they became popular, and it’s the same reason they have tended to grow in popularity.

              As in: if Israel had maintained a strong defense force, acknowledged and made attempts to rectify mistakes from their past, and simultaneously tried their best to get along with and form economic and cultural ties with the surrounding countries and cultures instead of resorting to military adventurism every time they felt a bit squeamish, perhaps they wouldn’t be in the extremely fucky and deeply, darkly ironic position they’re in today.

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              Death to Israel. They have no right to exist as a state. Due to US material and political support, Israel has never been motivated to seek equitable or good-faith relations with its neighbors. Now that their propaganda has finally worn thin, they have engineered a war with Iran, which they use as cover to hasten the expansion of their territory.

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            Assuming you actually think that is a valid argument, let me ask you a question: How well are Jews treated in e.g. Yemen, do you think?

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      Those are not terror proxies but freedom fighters, hope that helps

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        Sure, and nazis were just fighting for the freedom of the aryan race.

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          thanks for confirming you are a nazi and doesnt understand why those “terrorists” picked up weapon

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        Ah yes, freedom fighting Shia Muslims firing unguided freedom rockets at Israeli civilians.

        Note that both the Houthis and Hezbollah are Shias (hence allied with Shia Iran, in the Sunni-Shia religious cold war). And the Muslims Israel displaced from the Israel were Sunnis. So the claim of them being “freedom fighters” in the Israel-Palestine conflict is quite dubious - Yemen and Iran especially has no relation to Israel, they are just using Jews as an external enemy to blame their own shortcomings on. While of course not caring at all about China’s Uighur genocide.

        Lebanon: Hezbollah’s rocket attacks on northern Israel must be investigated as likely war crimes