Although Iran does not border the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, Yemen does, and Iran is closely allied with the Houthis, the Yemeni militant group that previously conducted dozens of strikes against Israel-linked vessels in the Red Sea in 2023 and 2024 in response to the war in Gaza.
So Iranian proxies attacking Israel for years was completely irrelevant to Israel attacking Iran? Bullshit.
So Israel entrenching their apartheid state for decades instead of working towards a more collaborative and egalitarian future with their neighboring countries and cultures was completely irrelevant to Israel attacking Iran? Bullshit.
You’re cherry-picking one-off justifications in a context that has history going back for literal millennia.
besides israel has been attacking iran for decades, and instigating most of the violence in the region.
You mean the ones that have “death to Israel” as a slogan? C’mon people. Don’t lionize Iran just because you’re angry at Israel and the US.
Did you ever stop to think why they say that?
Counldnt have anything to do with the way Isriel has treated muslim neighbours could it now.
Edit: let me be clear.
Fuck the Iranian government and its burtal oppression of its people.
But fuck the US for making it worse.
They’ve said it since the '70s. Maybe instead of entrenching their theocratic dictatorship for decades they should be working towards a more collaborative and egalitarian future with their neighboring countries and cultures.
what else happened about then…
And what happened before that? And before that? And before that? This is how all these discussions go. But you blame Israel for not “cozing up” to a regime that literally does not recognize their legitimacy and has done so for 50 years while it has also funded terror groups to attack them.
I’m sorry but there is not black and white here.
Israel has a long history of funding terrorism as well. In the 1950s, Zionists secretly performed terrorist attacks on Jewish synagogues and communities around the middle east. This was done in an effort to make them feel unsafe in Arab countries to promote migrations to the newly-formed country of Israel. Before this, Jewish people largely lived at peace alongside Muslims, as they were traditionally considered “People of the Book” due to their shared Abrahamic-religious background.
Furthermore, Netanyahu’s government has a history of funding Hamas to prevent the more moderate Palestinian Authority from representing Palestinians. Up until Oct. 7, Netanyahu was funneling 35 million dollars a month to Hamas through Qatar, with over 1 billion dollars transferred in total. He would do anything to prevent a two-state solution, and was also desperate for a distraction from his 10-year long corruption investigation.
Iran is right not to recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli state, because it was recently created via a violent settler-colonial occupation culminating in a genocide. It’s not black and white, but it isn’t completely fucking gray either, and there are some parts of this that are black and white.
From the American Declaration of Independence:
Israel de facto governs the Palestinian people without their consent, depriving them of all rights and treating them as disposable. In this case where Israel has refused all attempts of the Palestinians to alter this arrangement the only path that remains to them is to abolish the Israeli state, as is their right. Israel does not have a right to exist and no other state does either. The existence of any state is a privilege derived from the consent of the governed.
Your right, there’s tons of historical context here.
You act like this attitude twords the US and its allies are in a vacuum.
You act like Israel doesn’t have nukes treating them as well, funding terror in the region themselves. Gaza and Lebanon come to mind.
Why should Iran cozy up to such a hostile nation?
They’re not. There rooted in the blood spilled by those same countries.
If the US is hated, it’s probably justified.
I’m not saying it isn’t. I’m saying, and did say, not to lionize Iran just because you’re mad at Israel and the US.
Israel has no right to exist, its a literal nazi state, fuck you for defending its existence and fuck everyone else who does so
I’m not glorifying or supporting nihilistic slogans like that. I’m saying that there’s a reason they became popular, and it’s the same reason they have tended to grow in popularity.
As in: if Israel had maintained a strong defense force, acknowledged and made attempts to rectify mistakes from their past, and simultaneously tried their best to get along with and form economic and cultural ties with the surrounding countries and cultures instead of resorting to military adventurism every time they felt a bit squeamish, perhaps they wouldn’t be in the extremely fucky and deeply, darkly ironic position they’re in today.
Death to Israel. They have no right to exist as a state. Due to US material and political support, Israel has never been motivated to seek equitable or good-faith relations with its neighbors. Now that their propaganda has finally worn thin, they have engineered a war with Iran, which they use as cover to hasten the expansion of their territory.
Assuming you actually think that is a valid argument, let me ask you a question: How well are Jews treated in e.g. Yemen, do you think?
Probably similar to the thousands of Jews that live peacefully in Iran?
I see that you base your worldview on whichever fantasy makes you feel good in the moment, not reality or actually looking up facts. Good to know.
What facts did I make-up? Do Jews not live in Iran?
I admit that your post was 100% fact free. So you did not make up any facts, I admit.
As have yours by the way.