Pretty sure Jesus’s birthday isn’t the first and only mid-winter celebration in the entire history of humankind. Most people are just happy to get the solstice out of the way.
What are your views on atheists eating Easter eggs?
I can imagine there being a correlation, because there’s no reason to be outspoken, if you’re not embedded in a context that would push religion onto you, which includes celebrating Christmas.
I had a friend in university, whose parents immigrated from a secular region of East Asia, who was equally as atheist as I was. But while I arrived at that position after years of learning about Christianity, as well as peer pressure and self-reflection, she didn’t go through any of that.
She couldn’t have an opinion about Christianity to be outspoken about, because Christianity is just a random fandom as far as she’s concerned. She’s not particularly interested in it, and that’s all there is to it for her.And then, yeah, while I’m obviously much more outspoken than her, I’m not outspoken against doing a celebration in winter. Because I’m embedded in this Christian context, my parents want me to visit for Christmas, so I guess, I celebrate Christmas. ¯\_(⊙_ʖ⊙)_/¯
Get back in the shower and keep thinking, surely you have the imagination to understand why atheists (and other non Christian groups) celebrate Christmas. This is not a deep thought and kinda makes you sound like a dumb cunt tbh.
I wish I didn’t have to but religious family won’t take no for an answer. 😡
We call them Christmas and Easter, but they’re really just secular holidays for the family to get together. No religious aspect whatsoever, but great getting together.
I’m not loud and outspoken, but I don’t really celebrate. Though in my case I grew up JW so I never had the habit. I’ve heard arguments from outspoken atheists that religion doesn’t get to claim holidays, because you don’t have ro believe in something to enjoy the festive aspects, plus those holidays were stolen or merged from various religions anyway.
Just about every culture has a winter celebration. Religious or not, a large portion of the population is struggling in the cold. The party around the solstice gives a distinct turning point in the year as the days get longer. So why not take advantage of the existing merch, the existing day off work, and the spirit of your friends and family and partake? Going with the flow and pretending to celebrate a holiday in a religion you think is fake anyway is easier than having the same conversation over and over with family. And don’t underestimate the power of marketing, consumerism, and the lingering imperialism. I’ve been to India and many people expressed their wish to visit New York City at Christmas. It permeates local culture, it broadcasts globally.
As others have said, you’re showing a small world view and admitting your sample is small. Christianity creates atheists that celebrate Christmas. Judaism, hannukah. Modern non-religious cultural holidays, the new year. Traditional religions, some combo of the solstice and moon phase. Even those of other faiths that live in areas dominated by Christianity celebrate Christmas, heathens and pagans alike.
I’ve never met a loud and outspoken Christian that was really Christian.
Word.
Oh boy I sure have
“Celebrate” is doing a lot of work here. What are we supposed to do? Go to work?
I’m not than happy to celebrate every single holiday that gets me out of work
Yes
Saturnalia Gang rise up! Our time is now!
I do similar shit on the solstice these days out of respect, but if the Christians get any worse I’ll start doing my part to dilute the holiday’s religious significance even further out of spite.
I’ve never met a pro-lifer that didn’t celebrate their day of birth instead of their day of conception.
Oooo goteeem, roasted their ass, so cool.
Hello.
Also meet more people of various backgrounds.
Why
Broader experience will help you make more informed decisions about the world.
Also when you say something like “I’ve never met an atheist who didn’t celebrate Christmas” you sound extremely, let’s say, provincial, and that may have adverse consequences for you in some social contexts.
Idk, sounds like my views may be challenged and I may grow as a person. No way will I engage with that prospect! Consider the context in which I made my statement. Every loud atheist (the type of person that crowbars it into as many conversations as possible regardless of the topic at hand) has also celebrated Christmas. In this case I’m referring to 3 specific people in my personal life. It being a holiday today made me think about that while I was literally in the shower before leaving to go see family. I’m not necessarily surprised at the responses I’m getting but I am entertained by the way people are reacting to a shower thought post. The elite big brains in this comment section are so cool, cultured and smart. Especially you.
Some combination of literal child and troll, I expect.
Troll. I didn’t set out for that with this post though. I usually keep trolling to the shitpost community. Have a good night sibling 💋
Well yeah why not. The holiday was a pagan holiday long before the Jesus thing anyway. Besides the idea of gathering with your family to share meals and exchanging gifts because you love and care for them is not strictly a Christian thing.
But having traditions that create great memories with the people I care for most just isn’t the same without an infinitely babyfied diety who we will celebrate murdering in about four months. (This is just meant to try to get a laugh.)
eyup. they are all over that christian stuff with the yule log and mistletoe and decroting a tree and being visited by a magical elf lord and having all the holi on the day of christs birth that we all know vaguely coincides with the winter solcstice. so wierd that even though they don’t believe in god they celebrate not just one god but many. Just like the deeply christian japanese are so into it.
Yes, exactly
