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Anything making the US military even slightly less able to enforce imperialism and oppress the world is amazing.
How much do all those missiles cost? Asking for a friend who would have preferred to have healthcare, education, free electricity, and a fully solvent Social Security system, amongst other peaceful priorities.
Kc-135s are more like $100m fly away.
Aim for the skies Iran! I’m rooting for a lot more aircraft and a couple of aircraft carriers to be added to that tally!
I get the sentiment, but that’s thousands of deaths.
Edit: It seems we have a ton of war hawks here. I know that Iran is defending itself, as they should. But nobody should be cheering on the war and deaths of thousands on any side. I would cheer on the total withdrawal of the US. I would rather nobody dies senseless deaths.
Deaths for a pedophile. Shame.
If the US doesn’t want thousands of deaths on their end, maybe they should have considered not attacking Iran.
Correct, they should not have.
Tell that to the Iranians who are losing their homes, their hospitals, their schools and universities, their offices and of course their lives and the lives of their loved ones
-Churchill after Stalin suggested killing 40k nazi officers
Like in that case, it’s only an atrocity to them if the dead are white
They are completely allowed to refuse these orders but choose to follow them. Congress has not approved this war so it is 100% illegal. No soldier should carry out orders given illegally.
allowed to refuse these orders
In practice this rarely happens because of how difficult and uncertain the process is. Especially for those at lower levels
This video has some historical examples
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPLqGkYnBA&pp=0gcJCcQBo7VqN5tD
That’s not how that works. An order can be legal whether these attacks are legal, extra-legal, or illegal (they’re extra-legal or legal). Congress has given the president power to perform some military actions without their approval. Their approval is needed to declare war, and they’re required to be notified of the president taking certain actions (which they weren’t at the start, making what the president did illegal, but not the soldiers).
This isn’t defending the actions. This is only a statement of fact, letting you and others know you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about when you use this saying. Yes, they can (in fact, they must) refuse illegal orders, but that doesn’t mean what you’re implying.
Yeah, I can get behind that. But sinking multiple carriers is a bit extreme. I think what we all really want is the immediate withdrawal of those carriers and no more death.
Extreme? They’re getting bombed, their public infrastructure is getting targeted, schoolchildren are dying, but killing US soldiers is a step too far???
No, any killing is a step too far. It should all be stopped.
You think Iran wants this war? You think they’re welcoming their country getting laid waste to because it means they get to kill some Americans? They’re not the ones who started it and they don’t have the power to stop it. You want it stopped? Maybe focus solely on the US instead of this both sides victim blaming bullshit.
If you were a teacher you’d probably be the kind who sees a kid beating up another kid and suspends them both because the kid getting beat up tried swinging at the attacker after they already started beating them up and “all violence is wrong.”
Tell me please, how do you stop an enemy army from killing your people & destroying your infrastructure? Do you think the US will go back if asked politely? Be serious
No I don’t think that. But, I’m not rooting for thousands of deaths on either side.
Nope, they deserve a trauma like Vietnam.
Fascists deserve to die
Self defense. They rained death on Iran first.
You know how you prevent those deaths? Stop fucking invading Iran. Those deaths are completely on the US’s hands.
There is no draft, they volunteered.
The USA encourages young people to do that by keeping them in poverty and ignorance. So it’s kind of voluntary but not exactly freely chosen.
Not an excuse. Not even in the slightest. You don’t get to kill people to feed yourself. Would you defend poor people joining gangs and cartels?
Would you defend poor people joining gangs and cartels?
Isn’t that called “backing the blue”?
I, for one, am glad that Iran is discouraging young people from enlisting.
This is exactly why they target low income communities for recruitment. Someone who is down and out is a far better target for recruitment.
God forbid someone do to americans what they love doing to the rest of the world
What about the thousands of death in Iran? How are we OK with that but retaliating against an attacker in self defense is bad?
I’m not okay with that. Iran should have never been attacked. Trump should have never left the nuclear deal. Adding more atrocities doesn’t make things better.
That would definitely not be “more atrocities”, that would simply be self defense, in the most righteous way.
Defending yourself is not an atrocity.
My boys have the right to defend themselves; Also this will be great data if the US or Israel plan future wars of aggression!
I wish all American aircraft a lot of “Attention! Thermal signature detected!”.
See, if it was called “Epic Furry” instead, everyone in Iran would be a fox by now.
This is where they miscalculated
One of the Congressman that made a press release original posted it calling it “Epic Furry” before it was updated
Edit: archived version https://web.archive.org/web/20260228210308/https://rutherford.house.gov/media/press-releases/rutherford-statement-operation-epic-furry
F-35 is supposed to be stealth, it turns out to be extremely expensive garbage. Taxpayers should be angry at Lockheed
The F-35 was designed from the start to be a revenue stream. Everything you hear about it is pure, unadulterated marketing wank.
That has been known a long time, called a ‘complete failure’ by their own generals.
Took some time to prove it since the cowards never fought an adversary that could defend itself.
Despite plenty of data and negative articles many of our sell-out EU vassals ‘decided’ to buy these also immensely expensive things.I mean it’s stealth in one spectrum. Evidently the geniuses who designed the flying Cybertruck didn’t consider other spectrums like thermal.
Stealth in one spectrum, at very specific angles (mostly front facing). It’s a joke
The whole thing was basically a giant grift from the very start.
tfw the grift is so extensive even the defense industry is a scam
The defense industry has ALWAYS been a scam though…
Yup, we subsidize them at every step and then pay whatever they ask. Then it all fails to deliver any results.
Taxpayers are too stupid to grasp numbers this big.
They only care about the wealth tax on people who make more than 400k a year. That’s a number they can understand cause it’s roughly a house.
Even though the twats who vote for this rarely hit that level of income.
Didn’t an f16 also get hit yesterday over Iraq?
Thats a lot less than I thought it would be by this stage.
But I also suspect that Iranian military losses are also a lot less than the US is proporting
Before they could use missiles from a safe distance like the cowards they are.
But running low on them so they had to start using more planes recently. (Saw this reported last week)
this increases the risk dramatically.
And 4 hits in 24 hrs reflect this.
Let’s hope it goes up a lot more.
1,948,800,000 about 2 billion of useless junk destroyed.
I’m so tired of winning.
Should probably round down on the low cost of the warthog. Pennies on the dollar.
