• KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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    Yes but the problem is human dudes are not always what my particular media tells me. Humans almost never act or behave like media says.

    Today these exploded. They are randos doing life in a square of land that was fucked in particular. It’s probably children that were thinking about what fruit to pick to school.

    I don’t totally understand why this guy brought that up right now, but when someone does you might prefer empathy to your particular media for a little second. Maybe that’s just me. I lost the anger in a sea of tired a long time ago.

    Some humanoids seem to be transfixed by one media conglomorate or the other. It’s just not that interesting to me honestly. A handful of pensioners apparently feel the need to pump and pump gallons of babbel and irritate everyone on purpose. I sleep.

    Next day it’s those buddies being exploded and ughhh appealing to humanity. It will never happen until the boy himself stands up. Every act is one brave girl or boy becoming a real woman. Come out to stand up for the opposite of slay everyone. One or two brave randos stand up. They begin: Usually saying something like: fr hate all killing. Fr bro h8 all war. They immediately gets shit on.

    And when one little actual human rando brave says something, that’s just one small step for humanity. And it was hard. In a sea of bruh.

    That will be used by propagandists to point at and say look, it is futile! It is easy to hate! Consume more media! Look! [Insert followup question] slay slayyyy

    I sleep. Between you and me bro, anger has cost. For the haters. It is very easy to follow empathy. Not like a mountain monk but. That is something, only for you. It is what it is. Easy. Awake me for the real war.

    Yes there is a war. Remember that one hard step? This is him now: It was always class war. It was always a class war. One rise, several follow. It was always class war. Every boom all this time really this thing bothering you, the god fuck media propaganda death machine demon entity. Every bullet was.

    It was always a class war.

    The media now is desperation incarnate. It isn’t really working for the kids. The newest generations seems to have some kind of brain issue. They are immune. No wonder the period of guilliotines are approaching. Shocking, I know. But imploding pensioners are a little more occamz mf razor than all the creepypasta from your local boomer tv show, no? It’s science. Razor your local boy and girl or transform from boy to gorl or transmorph from gay to mechagay lesbian and enter

    The class war

    Let that sink in 🫩

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    SHOCKED! They are SHOCKED I tell you!

    Can we get “journalists” a new thesaurus please?

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    Boy, it sure does suck when assholes miles away blow your shit up, huh? Maybe there’s a lesson to be learned here.

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    “The Israeli military ordered an investigation into what went wrong”

    You dumbfucks attacked a people that were willing/able to hit back, that’s what went wrong you absolute blithering assholes!

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    The started a war with a country full of crazy and could actually fight back and relied on a leader that waffles more than my local brunch place.

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    Is the Israeli public “shocked” that missile defenses are not working? I thought that this has been the widely known since the “12 Day War” last year?

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    I don’t have sympathy for Israel because they’re the bastards behind the 9/11 attacks on America.

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        Line up all the suspects and the only one with means, motive, and opportunity is the far-right fascist government of Israel and its Mossad. They benefit politically from Mid-East war, whether they’re directly involved or not. It’s a win for them.

        That we stay allied with them despite decades of them committing war crime after war crime is fairly compelling evidence that the Republican Party at-large, and this administration specifically, are being blackmailed by other far-right governments into doing their bidding. We know there are Democrats on that blackmail list, too.

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        Israelis have been actively slaughtering innocent women and children in Palestine for years now with the public cheering on, they have started an unprovoked war with Iran by bombing a school killing 150 little girls. This is just a tiny sample of Israel’s recent crimes. Is it any wonder the world has little sympathy for them? About the same amount that we had for the Nazis after all of their war crimes. Get fucked Israel, go eat several bags of dicks.

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          When I say that Americans deserve no sympathy and are as a group responsible for their leadership, I get downvoted to hell. Even though I never advocated for the indiscriminate murder of civilians. Just pointing out the collective responsibility.

          The cognitive dissonance on this website is overwhelming, and your willingness to toss aside fundamental principle like “don’t target civilians” is disgusting. You don’t respond to children being killed by killing more children, you absoute fuckpuppet. Go fuck yourself.

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          Litterally foaming at the mouth, having a hate boner for dead/injured civilians. I truely hope you will look back at this in a couple of years and feel the shame you should.

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            I’d rather Iran be killing soldiers than innocent too, but I understand why people can’t get but feel this way at this point. There’s been literally zero justice against Israel, and it’s so extreme what they’ve gotten away with, that I fully understand the schnaudenfreude many will be feeling at seeing Israel seeing any form of repercussions at this point.

            That a overwhelming majority of the population isn’t strongly against their government doesn’t help either.

            So while you do have a point, it would kind of be like trying to shame lgbtq+ people for being happy an apartment in Berlin got bombed during WW2… Especially considering we are essentially in WW3, in great part started by Israel, who is also currently trying another genocide run in Lebanon now.

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            Only good nazi is a dead nazi. A decade from now I’ll be making a toast to the heroes who finally shot back at isreal.

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          The USA’s first target in Iran was a school for girls.

          The USA’s first target was to kill civilians.

          If you’re cheering the the USA in any of this, you’re cheering for death. No one is defending what the Iranian government has done to their civilians. But it’s not the USA’s job to be the world police, bomb little girls trying to get an education, tank the global oil economy, and send their own citizens to die in an illegal war.

          Maybe take a step back. I’m queer, married to a trans person. Palestine doesn’t support me or my right to live. I don’t care I would prefer to take the higher ground in thinking Palestinians deserve a right to live.

          Iran was uprising over their own government. Now they don’t have power, food is limited, and their govenment is still killing them while the USA bombs their schools.

          Fucking great alternative.

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            Just to put the scale of this into context, the strike on the girl’s school wasn’t the first thing they did, those three strikes were among the first 700 strikes carried out on day one (1200 in the first 36 hours).

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          And neither have most of the Iranian people, fuckwit. But you know the biggest difference between most Israelis and most Iranians? Iranians have almost universal no access to firearms. Meaning they have virtually no way to throw off the shackles of their dictatorship. So when Israel would rather laugh and bomb Iran. Its infrastructure. It’s desalination plants. Etc. instead of clandestinely getting weapons to Iranians in hopes they might protest and overthrow those fucking mullah dogs … don’t act surprised when some of us actually won’t bat an eye if surprise or shed a tear for Israel when it gets hit. I don’t feel bad for bullies getting their comeuppance. I won’t feel bad here either.

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          Try asking the guy to criticise Israel for all the civilians they’ve killed and you may find that it’s actually not that easy, which is strange, right?

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          this is coming from someone who’s pro palestine and anti israel and anti war as a whole.

          Same. But people want to feel righteous I guess and celebrating civilian victims is an outlet for that.

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        I wish it happened another way (say, by the missile hitting its intended target), but in general it’s a good thing for Israelis to know they’re not invincible.

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        Because they’re Israeli? And a large majority of Isrealis support whats being done to Iran? If you’re a Jew who still chooses to live there then its your own fucking fault if you get killed. They have literally EVERY opportunity in the world to leave their colonial paradise.

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          You could say the same about the United States could you not? News flash: relocation when your broke in a shit, war ravaged economy is difficult to put it mildly.

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            Yes, one can hope that one day americans get exactly the sort of treatment they have done on the world.

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          It’s also literally the only place in the world were Jews are relatively safe when it comes to general antisemitism from within the society. I get why they don’t leave. Besides that there are still protests against the government and against the war. People don’t want to give up and fight for a better future of Israel and Palestine.

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        You find it weird people are cheering for an evil country getting bombed?

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        Full support for you. Cheering for killed civilians should not be tolerated.

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        It’s amazing how quickly leftists support was crimes so long as the victims are “the right people”.

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          I’m also amazed at how quickly you blame leftists based on one person’s comment that gave no indication that they are a leftist.

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              “Trust me bro” is neither an acceptable source nor an acceptable form of birth control…though it appears to be working for the women nearest you.

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              So you’re making assumptions based on your flawed and biased experience instead of factual data. Got it. I expected that given the quality of comment you provided above.

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                  No, I simply recognise what I perceive may not be the same as reality and would double check my assumptions before posting any comment so I do less mistakes. I especially do not proudly proclaim that my comments lack any research whatsoever and that I’m completely fine with it like you are doing.

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              I suppose I don’t really know why I engage with willfully ignorant dumbasses. It’s just that it feels wrong to leave the really fucking stupidly wrong comments with no reply. I know it won’t break through the ignorance. They’re living in their own little alternate reality, ignoring everything that doesn’t fit into their little constructed worldview, attacking everyone who is actually trying to make the world a better place.

              But I guess it makes me feel better to speak up against the stupidity, even though it’s useless. Because if we don’t, these idiots will dominate the conversation and it will end up with more people going down that path.

              It’s like the anecdote of the bar where the guy is at the bar having a drink. Another guy walks in, goes up to the bar and orders a drink. Bartender tells him to get out. New guy says, “Hey, I just want to have a drink and relax, man.” Bartender has none of it, tells him to get out and never come back. New guy leaves, and our original guy asks the bartender about it, to which the bartender replies: “That guy had a swastika tattoo. He was a nazi. And the thing is, he probably would have been polite and had a drink and maybe even made friendly conversation. But the thing about nazis: Once he realized he was allowed here, he’d start bringing his other nazi friends. Once you let one of them in and stay, you become a nazi bar.”

              It’s a little glurgy, and maybe it never happened or maybe it’s happened a hundred times… that’s the thing about anecdotes like that.

              But the underlying principle is sound.

              If we let these fucking fascists take over the conversation, soon this place will be no better than /r/the_donald or /r/conservative or Truth Social or any of the other places fascists congregate.

              So I guess that’s why I speak up.

              But I don’t really try to change their stupid opinions, because there’s no fucking point. All I really would like to see is for them to shut the fuck up and stop pissing all over the conversation.

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          They made themselves the right people with the genocide they support. 5 years ago it was a different story. But 100,000+ Palestinians later, I have no sympathy for Israelis. FAFO

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          I am not convinced these people are leftist tbh. At least in my leftist circles in the real world atrocities like these are not celebrated.

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            It’s been 3 years m’y wife’s crying because her friends are getting bombed. I was in the room as she was recieving calls from people who just got widowed or orphaned. Your german fistworld privileged “leftist circles” let your gouvernement protect the genociders. You can shove your righteousness in your outward hole

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            Maybe not - though the anti-Israel stance of most / many leftist certainly seems to be getting pretty rabid. And the person I called a ‘leftist’ didn’t dispute that claim.

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          I don’t.

          But it sure is a little fucking difficult to have a lot of sympathy for fewer than two hundred INJURED Jews when Israel has murdered way more than 20,000 Palestinians - countless instances of running them over alive with bulldozers or tanks, crushing them alive in the treads, or just shooting random kids.

          Little fucking difficult to feel too much sympathy there.

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          We love to supremacists who setup camping chairs and bring snacks to watch children be bombed by their supremacists military finally face consequences of the terror they’ve inflicted on so many nations and taste a tiny bit of their own medicine, and they happen to identify as Jews.

          Israelis meanwhile unapologetically love watching “Arabs” die at their hands.

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            It’s a common Israeli talking point to associate any critique of their government with antisemitism.

            It’s very transparent.

            It’s the same people acting as mouthpieces that are silent when Israel actually targets hospitals or their soldiers torture babies and rape prisoners. Hard to pretend they aren’t the ones indoctrinated to hate a specific set of people.

            Your hate towards anyone that isnt subservient to Israel has turned a massively shitty theocratic regime into some kind of weird underdog worth cheering for.

            It’s like if Italy and Germany were fighting in WW2 and you dont understand why people are cheering on Italy, but even more, you actually think the Nazis are the good guys. Everyone else is simply going “they both suck but one is clearly worse than the other, because of the genocide and all”.

            Put all the quotes that you like but you are either against Zionism or pro genocide.

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              It’s also a common anti-semite talking point to declare clear-as-day anti-semitism as anti-zionism.

              Very transparent.

              And btw. I am against zionism while still being able to tell that it’s a bad thing to slaughter civilians. Wonder why you aren’t.

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                Israel’s & Israeli sympathizer’s labeling of antisemitism for all criticisms is making that phrase meaningless. They’re putting jewish people at risk by hiding behind it.

                Just own it, people are hating on that country because they commit war crimes, warmonger nonstop, and use mossad to run pedo rings to influence / control their “allies” governments—then pretend to be the victim.

                Has nothing to do with the faith of the people.

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                Point me towards a comment where you have been critical of Israel bombing hospitals in Lebanon, bombing refugee camps in Palestine or causing over 1000 civilian deaths in Iran these past few weeks.

                I know it’s a bad thing to kill civilians. That’s why I’m against the country that goes out of its way to do it. Israel revels in civilian deaths.

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                  I know it’s a bad thing to kill civilians.

                  cool so we are in agreement as to my initial comment that it is fucked up to cheer dead civilians.

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                In this case, all the victims are disproportionately Zionists, so what you’re claiming is the less likely thing to be happening here. It’s also very transparent when Zionists try to hide behind the Jew identity so they can avoid consequences for their actions, you know?

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                  In this case, all the victims are disproportionately Zionists

                  There is no possible way for you to know that. You are basing this assumption exclusively where these people happened to have been born.