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    18 hours ago

    Or just post-post-truth & anti-bullshit. Why should people believe the fakery, we can move on from control methods and not be cattle anymore

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          12 hours ago

          But that’s not what we are discussing here, we are discussing socialist states where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state.

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                12 hours ago

                The meme parrots the kayfabe with controlled opposition and division created by the global authoritarian parasite class. They’ll all have to go

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                  11 hours ago

                  What is the “global authoritarian parasite class?” Classes are specific relations to production and distribution. Are you referring to the top of the capitalist class, the imperialists in the US and Europe? I’m not sure how that relates to the meme. This meme is specifically about how liberals use terms like “authoritarian” to discredit existing socialist states, without an analysis of what that authority is used for and how it’s different from capitalist states.

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                    11 hours ago

                    You assume that there are existing socialist states. Every state is controlled right now. We’ve learned it time and time again, only this time there seems to be a momentum in people not accepting it anymore.

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          In a socialist world you don’t need a state. It withers away and we all become communists or anarchists or whatever. In our world however, any socialist movement will immediately come under attack from reactionary forces from outside. A state is needed to suppress those reactionary forces.

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            12 hours ago

            Yeah, they’re suppressing every socialist attempt currently, but the facade is crumbling

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                11 hours ago

                Someone joked in a comment about politics, that’s one way to evaluate, with the Epstein files, Iran and the apocalypse plans being quite clear reveals

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      17 hours ago

      they are controlling us by telling us socialism is not that bad!

      this will have dire consequences!!