But that’s not what we are discussing here, we are discussing socialist states where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state.
What is the “global authoritarian parasite class?” Classes are specific relations to production and distribution. Are you referring to the top of the capitalist class, the imperialists in the US and Europe? I’m not sure how that relates to the meme. This meme is specifically about how liberals use terms like “authoritarian” to discredit existing socialist states, without an analysis of what that authority is used for and how it’s different from capitalist states.
You assume that there are existing socialist states. Every state is controlled right now. We’ve learned it time and time again, only this time there seems to be a momentum in people not accepting it anymore.
There are existing socialist states, where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes are in control of the state: the PRC, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, and Venezuela. We’ve indeed learned time and time again that socialism can and does exist.
In a socialist world you don’t need a state. It withers away and we all become communists or anarchists or whatever. In our world however, any socialist movement will immediately come under attack from reactionary forces from outside. A state is needed to suppress those reactionary forces.
Of course, a socialist world. Not reactionary states claiming to be
But that’s not what we are discussing here, we are discussing socialist states where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state.
Ah so there was this meme that I commented on outside that discussion
I’m aware and am referring to the meme as well, as we all are in this discussion.
The meme parrots the kayfabe with controlled opposition and division created by the global authoritarian parasite class. They’ll all have to go
What is the “global authoritarian parasite class?” Classes are specific relations to production and distribution. Are you referring to the top of the capitalist class, the imperialists in the US and Europe? I’m not sure how that relates to the meme. This meme is specifically about how liberals use terms like “authoritarian” to discredit existing socialist states, without an analysis of what that authority is used for and how it’s different from capitalist states.
You assume that there are existing socialist states. Every state is controlled right now. We’ve learned it time and time again, only this time there seems to be a momentum in people not accepting it anymore.
There are existing socialist states, where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes are in control of the state: the PRC, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, and Venezuela. We’ve indeed learned time and time again that socialism can and does exist.
It can exist, when the world doesn’t have the pedophile overlords anymore manipulating population like cattle
In a socialist world you don’t need a state. It withers away and we all become communists or anarchists or whatever. In our world however, any socialist movement will immediately come under attack from reactionary forces from outside. A state is needed to suppress those reactionary forces.
Yeah, they’re suppressing every socialist attempt currently, but the facade is crumbling
Where is the facade crumbling? I need some examples because honestly I have no idea what your are talking about.
Someone joked in a comment about politics, that’s one way to evaluate, with the Epstein files, Iran and the apocalypse plans being quite clear reveals