while I don’t approve of the method, leaving this person basically stranded and without indictment. I want to differentiate that the person in question is not a good person
The person seems heavily bound with Russian desinformation, ties with RT, and foreign letterbox company, to circumvent sanctions.
Then got caught in the consequences of the freezing of Russian assets after the Ukraine war.
I doubt this person is as innocent as your meme makes them out to be so let’s differentiate please.
If a person fighting for the recognition of Palestinians isn’t a good person in German media, then who is? Your law enforcement is cracking down on free speech against protestors who believe Palestinians are people who deserve to live in peace, but you believe that him being potentially linked to Russia automatically makes him a villain??? What??? Isn’t the most logical conclusion that the state is warning journalists not to step out of line because your elites PROFIT off weapons sales to Israel?
It takes more than 1 good position to quantify as a good person. Are you really that shallow? If hypothetical famous cannibal and child rapist Joe Eatskids says that he is in favor of Palestinian liberation and religious freedom in every nation does that excuse his other crimes against humanity?
We’re not talking about a hypothetical child rapist cannibal, we’re talking about regular people being beaten up by cops in Germany for having solidarity with Palestinians, and if this speech isn’t protected then why would I believe the German establishment cares at all about humanity?
If you say something they don’t like, they could do the same to you, no charge, no trial. And criticizing that practice might be something they don’t like, even if not today, then maybe tomorrow.
You’re probably fine for now because you justified the actions by attacking the victim, but this might be as critical as you’re allowed to be.
I think we need to start getting some reliable, neutral outside polls on Europe to see how they really feel about their governments. Maybe we can bring in some Chinese pollsters. Obviously anyone voicing approval in domestic polls is just afraid of the repercussions of voicing a negative opinion.
Is it safe for you to say this?
If you say something they don’t like, they could do the same to you, no charge, no trial.
Who is this they you are talking about? It sounds like antisemitism.
And yes its safe for me to say. I think not having ties with Russian state propaganda for living normally is a risk I’m willing to take, as its no effort for me.
All these other speculations you’re pointing to you would have to prove to me first.
Your fucking government, dumbass. The EU. The people implementing the policy in question. I know y’all act like any criticism of the Israeli government is antisemitic, but does that protection now extend to any criticism of the EU?
I think not having ties with Russian state propaganda for living normally is a risk I’m willing to take, as its no effort for me.
Nothing to hide so you have nothing to fear, eh? Yeah, millions of Americans were fine with our government using extralegal punishments and detentions because they thought it would be limited to terrorists. Now we’re being dragged away to secret torture dungeons in El Salvador.
But fortunately, I’m sure that nothing bad will come of European governments having the tools to punish people without charge or trial. I mean, honestly, what do you even need rights for? Just trust the people in charge to sort out the good guys and the bad guys.
Say, unrelated, but how’s the AFD doing these days? And, purely hypothetically, if they got into government, how would you feel about them having a precedent that would allow them to apply these punishments to anyone they consider to have engaged in wrongthink?
All these other speculations you’re pointing to you would have to prove to me first.
What speculations would I have to prove? That domestic polls are unreliable?
I’ve seen a lot of people dismiss domestic polls in China that show overwhelming support for the government as unreliable. I’ve never seen one of them feel the need to prove it, or present a shred of evidence. In fact, when outside polls have confirmed those results, they just say that they’re all “brainwashed” or “propagandized.”
Not quite as fun when it’s your people’s perspective that’s being written off, is it?
Fucking genocide enthusiasts, the Germans, now using claims of antisemitism to shut down any criticism of an ongoing genocide. It’s in your fucking blood I swear.
German comes along to explain why being anti-genocide makes you bad. German thinks your human rights don’t matter if you’re the wrong kind of person. Pretty typical.
I think context as always matters when looking at things. Generalising things at seeking easy truths is when we leave out the nuances and these matter.
Let’s focus for example on what I said vs what I didn’t say. I didn’t say a person exercising free speech is a problem, I said the person had ties with Russian state propaganda. Which I even explained with sources. Here are some more:
Your next point, after indicating generalizing all Germans are the same, was that I said this person(and all persons) doesn’t deserve human rights, vs what I actually said, they should have an indictment, where they would have a chance to appeal against.
If they said you’re a dipshit therefore you’re wrong, that’s ad hominem, that’s not what they said. You are wrong and don’t know what an ad hominem is, you dipshit.
No, you are assigning a moral value to complexity. Things are not more materially or morally correct by being more complex. That is the thinking of someone who thinks they are smart by really isn’t. Simple truths exist. One of which is that genocide is bad. Adding any “context” to that is pro-genocide. Which Germans have a long history of being.
You all are very high and mighty about the apparent lessons you learned from committing the most complex genocide in history (I can tell you are one of those). But the lesson you all learned is that you need to hire other people to do it. It allows you to maintain your smugness and innocence to anyone who doesn’t pay attention to anything.
They did not use an ad hominem fallacy, they said you explained why being anti-genocide is wrong, and then said that that’s typical of Germans. They did not say you were wrong because you were German.
while I don’t approve of the method, leaving this person basically stranded and without indictment. I want to differentiate that the person in question is not a good person
links in German:
https://taz.de/RT-nahes-Medium-Red/!6039623/
https://archive.is/t60qm
The person seems heavily bound with Russian desinformation, ties with RT, and foreign letterbox company, to circumvent sanctions. Then got caught in the consequences of the freezing of Russian assets after the Ukraine war.
I doubt this person is as innocent as your meme makes them out to be so let’s differentiate please.
If a person fighting for the recognition of Palestinians isn’t a good person in German media, then who is? Your law enforcement is cracking down on free speech against protestors who believe Palestinians are people who deserve to live in peace, but you believe that him being potentially linked to Russia automatically makes him a villain??? What??? Isn’t the most logical conclusion that the state is warning journalists not to step out of line because your elites PROFIT off weapons sales to Israel?
It takes more than 1 good position to quantify as a good person. Are you really that shallow? If hypothetical famous cannibal and child rapist Joe Eatskids says that he is in favor of Palestinian liberation and religious freedom in every nation does that excuse his other crimes against humanity?
We’re not talking about a hypothetical child rapist cannibal, we’re talking about regular people being beaten up by cops in Germany for having solidarity with Palestinians, and if this speech isn’t protected then why would I believe the German establishment cares at all about humanity?
Is it safe for you to say this?
If you say something they don’t like, they could do the same to you, no charge, no trial. And criticizing that practice might be something they don’t like, even if not today, then maybe tomorrow.
You’re probably fine for now because you justified the actions by attacking the victim, but this might be as critical as you’re allowed to be.
I think we need to start getting some reliable, neutral outside polls on Europe to see how they really feel about their governments. Maybe we can bring in some Chinese pollsters. Obviously anyone voicing approval in domestic polls is just afraid of the repercussions of voicing a negative opinion.
Who is this they you are talking about? It sounds like antisemitism.
And yes its safe for me to say. I think not having ties with Russian state propaganda for living normally is a risk I’m willing to take, as its no effort for me.
All these other speculations you’re pointing to you would have to prove to me first.
Your fucking government, dumbass. The EU. The people implementing the policy in question. I know y’all act like any criticism of the Israeli government is antisemitic, but does that protection now extend to any criticism of the EU?
Nothing to hide so you have nothing to fear, eh? Yeah, millions of Americans were fine with our government using extralegal punishments and detentions because they thought it would be limited to terrorists. Now we’re being dragged away to secret torture dungeons in El Salvador.
But fortunately, I’m sure that nothing bad will come of European governments having the tools to punish people without charge or trial. I mean, honestly, what do you even need rights for? Just trust the people in charge to sort out the good guys and the bad guys.
Say, unrelated, but how’s the AFD doing these days? And, purely hypothetically, if they got into government, how would you feel about them having a precedent that would allow them to apply these punishments to anyone they consider to have engaged in wrongthink?
What speculations would I have to prove? That domestic polls are unreliable?
I’ve seen a lot of people dismiss domestic polls in China that show overwhelming support for the government as unreliable. I’ve never seen one of them feel the need to prove it, or present a shred of evidence. In fact, when outside polls have confirmed those results, they just say that they’re all “brainwashed” or “propagandized.”
Not quite as fun when it’s your people’s perspective that’s being written off, is it?
Your government, you fucking dipshit.
Fucking genocide enthusiasts, the Germans, now using claims of antisemitism to shut down any criticism of an ongoing genocide. It’s in your fucking blood I swear.
German comes along to explain why being anti-genocide makes you bad. German thinks your human rights don’t matter if you’re the wrong kind of person. Pretty typical.
I think context as always matters when looking at things. Generalising things at seeking easy truths is when we leave out the nuances and these matter. Let’s focus for example on what I said vs what I didn’t say. I didn’t say a person exercising free speech is a problem, I said the person had ties with Russian state propaganda. Which I even explained with sources. Here are some more:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(Fernsehsender)#Ukraine_und_Syrien
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(Plattform)
Your next point, after indicating generalizing all Germans are the same, was that I said this person(and all persons) doesn’t deserve human rights, vs what I actually said, they should have an indictment, where they would have a chance to appeal against.
Your ad hominem fallacy tactics are childish.
If they said you’re a dipshit therefore you’re wrong, that’s ad hominem, that’s not what they said. You are wrong and don’t know what an ad hominem is, you dipshit.
No, you are assigning a moral value to complexity. Things are not more materially or morally correct by being more complex. That is the thinking of someone who thinks they are smart by really isn’t. Simple truths exist. One of which is that genocide is bad. Adding any “context” to that is pro-genocide. Which Germans have a long history of being.
You all are very high and mighty about the apparent lessons you learned from committing the most complex genocide in history (I can tell you are one of those). But the lesson you all learned is that you need to hire other people to do it. It allows you to maintain your smugness and innocence to anyone who doesn’t pay attention to anything.
Not an ad hominem, an accurate observation
They did not use an ad hominem fallacy, they said you explained why being anti-genocide is wrong, and then said that that’s typical of Germans. They did not say you were wrong because you were German.
Nazi logic 2026/1945: “but he’s of subhuman race, therefore bad”
Stop the spread of germans