I’m pro 2A and a lot of my 2A buddies knew damn well Harris wasn’t coming after our guns because she was just going to continue what Biden was doing which was pretty much nothing.
Trump on the other hand has repeatedly lied about his stance on 2A, moved to ban accessories and certain firearms and at one point the ATF had the longest wait times under his first admin. The wait times are nearly non-existent but there are some who argue that is thanks to Biden.
And for those who claim that the “Gun Personality” people voted for Trump, I can tell you from first hand experience those gun nuts did not vote for Trump. It was the faux 2A who go to the range for a photoshoot and buy the Gucci gear who voted for Trump.
It was the faux 2A who go to the range for a photoshoot and buy the Gucci gear who voted for Trump.
I am FINALLY starting to see some guntubers start to call this shit out, and call attention to the fact that their community is getting overrun with people who don’t actually care about proper gun safety and laws, and are only there for the politics and “masculinity” around having guns.
I hope this continues. I was first to speak up that we needed better gun laws in the US, but I also am a gun owner and have always been really disappointed how guns became a political issue and not a guarantee that these political issues don’t overpower us and take away all our rights.
The left needs to arm the fuck up. Political capital comes from force and patriotism, it’s a fucking shame the worst people have taken our most powerful tools for change in the US and used them to get us here.
The vast swaths of tuned-out, comfortable, liberal America look at two sides, the right kissing the flag and promising to defend the country with their lives, and then they look to the left, spitting on the flag and demanding de-armement, and they make a choice which makes them feel safer. It’s utterly stupid that they have this binary vision, but we have to understand how power comes from this perception, and we don’t win without power.
I hope to see you and your other 2A friends out in the streets. The folks I know are trying to catch up, but gun safety and marksmanship are slow skills to build, and we could use some support from the folks with the know-how.
Where I am, everyone on the street is carrying but you won’t see it. We have constitutional concealed carry and even 60% of the little old ladies I know have one in their purse, and that’s just what I know of.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
The issue is that the dems won’t drop their gun control rhetoric, even with a huge portion of their base becoming armed and fascist literally killing people. I don’t give a shit that Harris own or fired a gun. I give a shit that they’ve not woken up to the realization that gun owners aren’t just maga chodes larping as nazis. They need to drop the anti-gun shit and actually focus on what needs to be done to correct our move towards full blown dictatorship.
I’ve said it a million times. Dems would sweep elections and destroy the GOP if they dropped their anti-2a bullshit.
I’m sorry, gonna call bullshit here on the last election.
The D candidate and running mate were gun owners and comfortable owning and using guns. The R candidate when he was President literally said “Take the guns first, go through due process second,”
YET when that’s discussed, somehow it’s (D)ifferent to the gun owners. The “Gun grabbing democrats” won’t stop but Trump saying that but not going through was fine.
So when coworkers are suddenly now worried he might be coming for their guns my response is just call me Cassandra because I saw it coming and here we are!
What are you even arguing here? AWB is one of the top things she platformed on for gun laws. Same for ERPOs and UBC(which requires a registery).
I don’t know if you’re assuming I’m defending the turnip in power right now or not, but my point has been that dems are for more gun control and for banning a lot of firearms that are in common use, because they have no clue about firearms.
Isn’t the reason the 2a is so sacred is to be a check on the kind of authoritarian take over already in progress ? All those school kids were murdered so that access to firearms could continue to be unhindered so something could be done to correct your move towards full blown dictatorship?
The fascist are the ones who are heavily armed. On top of that, we’re not at the start a civil war yet. We’re at the ballot box right now, midterms will determine if we move to the next box.
What dem has come out and said they want to take away 2a?
The vast majority of dem proposed gun regulations are not anti 2a. Gun regulation isn’t anti 2a
Gun regulations are anti-2a, almost all gun regulations will not curb our violence or gun deaths in this country. Almost all gun regulations are designed to limit the access of minorities and oppressed groups to arm themselves.
It takes half a second of googling to pull up links like this. Yes it’s not a platform they run on but to act like that’s not the end goal of a ton of dems is being naive at best and willfully lying at worse. The Democratic party’s end goal is to make it so, basically the rich are all that own firearms in the end.
The actual proposal to Congress in that article reads…
“adopt a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution pursuant to article V of the United States Constitution to clarify the constitutional right to bear arms.”
That’s not removing 2a. The comment of repealing was just that, a comment. That specific comment didn’t make it to the official request to Congress.
Since when does amending ANYTHING mean removing it?
Lol, the 21st voids the 18th…open a damn history book for once kid.
You didn’t provide anything, the linked article didn’t support your claim.
I literally did, you just don’t like that there are elected dems who want to ban civilians from owning firearms. All so you can continue the bullshit from the DNC “we don’t want to take your guns”.
Not just gun control, if democrats became populist they would sweep elections. We pay more money for less service in a great many areas, and we didn’t use to. Call out those gatekeepers that have taken from our shares, in our lifetimes, and promise to bring it back to us. It’s that simple.
The establishment was chosen to kill popular reform, not enact it. The only way forward is replacing them, and they are as secure as ever as they’ve convinced the sheep it’s the voters’ fault for not electing the most unpopular candidate they could find that offered zero reform in a time of anger while the republicans ran as reform.
I’m not helping the establishment democrats, it’s a waste of time, we need new leaders, fighting under these leaders is giving up.
Their goal has never been to win against Republicans but act as a buffer between the working class and the ruling class, acting in the interests of the ruling class
And this is the exact shit I’m talking about. Your whataboutism doesn’t negate anything I’m saying. It just furthers people who are single issue voters into the hands of the maga chodes because they’re saying “no we’re not going to take the guns” while you spout shit like “repeal the 2nd”.
You know more children die drowning in pools each year than have been killed via school shootings in the last 10 years combined? Let’s stop acting like the reason you want the firearms gone is because of the kids.
I have a lot of fun going to the range and putting holes in paper. Way more fun than I have soaking in a soup of little kid urine and dead bugs in the pool.
« Harris will comes for your guns » -MAGA
Dems campaigned on restricting gun ownership broadly.
Republicans campaigned on restricting civil liberties for liberals specifically.
I’m pro 2A and a lot of my 2A buddies knew damn well Harris wasn’t coming after our guns because she was just going to continue what Biden was doing which was pretty much nothing.
Trump on the other hand has repeatedly lied about his stance on 2A, moved to ban accessories and certain firearms and at one point the ATF had the longest wait times under his first admin. The wait times are nearly non-existent but there are some who argue that is thanks to Biden.
And for those who claim that the “Gun Personality” people voted for Trump, I can tell you from first hand experience those gun nuts did not vote for Trump. It was the faux 2A who go to the range for a photoshoot and buy the Gucci gear who voted for Trump.
Add two more factors. The fucking Russian and Chinese mobile phones responding on social media.
I am FINALLY starting to see some guntubers start to call this shit out, and call attention to the fact that their community is getting overrun with people who don’t actually care about proper gun safety and laws, and are only there for the politics and “masculinity” around having guns.
I hope this continues. I was first to speak up that we needed better gun laws in the US, but I also am a gun owner and have always been really disappointed how guns became a political issue and not a guarantee that these political issues don’t overpower us and take away all our rights.
The left needs to arm the fuck up. Political capital comes from force and patriotism, it’s a fucking shame the worst people have taken our most powerful tools for change in the US and used them to get us here.
The vast swaths of tuned-out, comfortable, liberal America look at two sides, the right kissing the flag and promising to defend the country with their lives, and then they look to the left, spitting on the flag and demanding de-armement, and they make a choice which makes them feel safer. It’s utterly stupid that they have this binary vision, but we have to understand how power comes from this perception, and we don’t win without power.
I hope to see you and your other 2A friends out in the streets. The folks I know are trying to catch up, but gun safety and marksmanship are slow skills to build, and we could use some support from the folks with the know-how.
Where I am, everyone on the street is carrying but you won’t see it. We have constitutional concealed carry and even 60% of the little old ladies I know have one in their purse, and that’s just what I know of.
www.blazingsword.org
Yea it’s for LGBTQ+ people mainly but even if you’re not in that demographic, and want to learn. I’m sure plenty of us wouldn’t mind.
I’m a lgbtq+ people, so this is perfect for me.
I thought that was hilarious given that she is known to carry and be proficient with a pistol, and Trump has never held a gun in his life.
The issue is that the dems won’t drop their gun control rhetoric, even with a huge portion of their base becoming armed and fascist literally killing people. I don’t give a shit that Harris own or fired a gun. I give a shit that they’ve not woken up to the realization that gun owners aren’t just maga chodes larping as nazis. They need to drop the anti-gun shit and actually focus on what needs to be done to correct our move towards full blown dictatorship.
I’ve said it a million times. Dems would sweep elections and destroy the GOP if they dropped their anti-2a bullshit.
I’m sorry, gonna call bullshit here on the last election.
The D candidate and running mate were gun owners and comfortable owning and using guns. The R candidate when he was President literally said “Take the guns first, go through due process second,”
YET when that’s discussed, somehow it’s (D)ifferent to the gun owners. The “Gun grabbing democrats” won’t stop but Trump saying that but not going through was fine.
So when coworkers are suddenly now worried he might be coming for their guns my response is just call me Cassandra because I saw it coming and here we are!
https://www.everytown.org/press/what-does-freedom-from-gun-violence-mean-for-kamala-harris/
What are you even arguing here? AWB is one of the top things she platformed on for gun laws. Same for ERPOs and UBC(which requires a registery).
I don’t know if you’re assuming I’m defending the turnip in power right now or not, but my point has been that dems are for more gun control and for banning a lot of firearms that are in common use, because they have no clue about firearms.
Isn’t the reason the 2a is so sacred is to be a check on the kind of authoritarian take over already in progress ? All those school kids were murdered so that access to firearms could continue to be unhindered so something could be done to correct your move towards full blown dictatorship?
The fascist are the ones who are heavily armed. On top of that, we’re not at the start a civil war yet. We’re at the ballot box right now, midterms will determine if we move to the next box.
Project 2025 creator or whoever said the second civil war we’ll be blooess if the left allows it. And so far he seems correct.
Yep, and the longer the left keeps pushing to disarm itself the quicker that becomes true.
Fascism can’t be voted out anymore than it was voted in. Continued support for the parties that have enabled it will allow it to continue growing. .
What dem has come out and said they want to take away 2a? The vast majority of dem proposed gun regulations are not anti 2a. Gun regulation isn’t anti 2a
Gun regulations are anti-2a, almost all gun regulations will not curb our violence or gun deaths in this country. Almost all gun regulations are designed to limit the access of minorities and oppressed groups to arm themselves.
https://fee.org/articles/lawmakers-in-hawaii-propose-repealing-second-amendment/
It takes half a second of googling to pull up links like this. Yes it’s not a platform they run on but to act like that’s not the end goal of a ton of dems is being naive at best and willfully lying at worse. The Democratic party’s end goal is to make it so, basically the rich are all that own firearms in the end.
The actual proposal to Congress in that article reads…
“adopt a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution pursuant to article V of the United States Constitution to clarify the constitutional right to bear arms.”
That’s not removing 2a. The comment of repealing was just that, a comment. That specific comment didn’t make it to the official request to Congress.
Really…you do realize that amending it is just an easier way to basically say it’s null and void.
On top of that, you asked I provided. Let’s stop pretending that there aren’t dems who want it repealed.
Since when does amending ANYTHING mean removing it?
You didn’t provide anything, the linked article didn’t support your claim.
Lol, the 21st voids the 18th…open a damn history book for once kid.
I literally did, you just don’t like that there are elected dems who want to ban civilians from owning firearms. All so you can continue the bullshit from the DNC “we don’t want to take your guns”.
Not just gun control, if democrats became populist they would sweep elections. We pay more money for less service in a great many areas, and we didn’t use to. Call out those gatekeepers that have taken from our shares, in our lifetimes, and promise to bring it back to us. It’s that simple.
The establishment was chosen to kill popular reform, not enact it. The only way forward is replacing them, and they are as secure as ever as they’ve convinced the sheep it’s the voters’ fault for not electing the most unpopular candidate they could find that offered zero reform in a time of anger while the republicans ran as reform.
I’m not helping the establishment democrats, it’s a waste of time, we need new leaders, fighting under these leaders is giving up.
Their goal has never been to win against Republicans but act as a buffer between the working class and the ruling class, acting in the interests of the ruling class
No arguments from me on that.
Who are you going to shoot to bring our democracy back, Rambo?
The 2nd should be repealed. Kids getting murdered in school isn’t a fair price to pay so that gun fetishists can indulge their fantasies.
And this is the exact shit I’m talking about. Your whataboutism doesn’t negate anything I’m saying. It just furthers people who are single issue voters into the hands of the maga chodes because they’re saying “no we’re not going to take the guns” while you spout shit like “repeal the 2nd”.
What’s the point of having the 2nd amendment if it leads to kids being killed, but it’s not used to stop the fascists taking over the country?
You know more children die drowning in pools each year than have been killed via school shootings in the last 10 years combined? Let’s stop acting like the reason you want the firearms gone is because of the kids.
Yes but pools are fun and give exercise. Gun ownership is useless (since they’re no being used now against their main purported purpose).
I have a lot of fun going to the range and putting holes in paper. Way more fun than I have soaking in a soup of little kid urine and dead bugs in the pool.
Before was Biden then Obama. Almost like gun lobbyist created panic to sell more guns.
And without fail, every accusation continues to be an admission