• VitoRobles@lemmy.today
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    5 hours ago

    Under no other president did I fear for the lives of so many Americans.

    At work, we used to talk about dumb shit. Who brought M&Ms or cupcakes. How some random movie ended.

    Now, some of my coworkers are terrified. We had a incident where some masked goons rushed up on a random woman and when we all came out, they ran away.

    Our manager openly said, “None of them are allowed in the building.” And during the worse of it, my manager brought a shotgun.

    Average office workers are arming themselves.

    This is what this orange motherfucker did.

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      4 hours ago

      I’m amazed more people aren’t standing their ground (opening fire) when masked goons jump out of an unmarked car and try to kidnap someone. So much for all that second amendment peacocking eh

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        The second amendment people are absolutely on the side of Trump. They are more likely to shoot people who try to stop ICE than anything else.

        We have more guns in the US than every single US citizen and we have lost more lives to gun violence than every war we have ever fought combined.

        Guns don’t solve our problems. It truly takes an idiot to believe they do.

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          Plus most people have no combat training. I can handle aggressive drivers no problem. If masked thugs rush me with drawn weapons, I will very effectively shit myself at best, run hard at worst

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          When they raided Chicago ICE specifically stayed away from the really bad parts because they didn’t wanna get shot.

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          This is the correct answer. They’re hitting blue cities where it’s mainly left leaning people who are anti-gun. Why hit a 2a strong hold if you’re probably going to meet force. They’ll kill for the paycheck, but they don’t want to die for it.

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        People just don’t want to be involved, and I’m not going to judge them for that.

        As in, I have a wife and 2 young kids. My purpose in life is to care for and support them. If I’m at work or whatever and some goons show up to abduct someone I don’t know, I’m not going to start blasting and go down in a blaze of glory because of an ideological position.

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          The truth is there would be more incidents of people fighting back if all the people here actually stood by what they say.

          Notice how there isn’t. Talk is cheap and this place proves it.

          The truth is- youre exactly right. People don’t stupidly sacrifice themselves knowing there is no popular pushback. And at this moment there is not that popular notion that things need to be overturned.

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          If you or your wife/kids were being abducted and sent to the camps, would you be happy knowing everyone else stood by not wanting to get involved?

          I get being scared, but inaction is destroying countless families. If everyone stands together, the risk factor goes down.

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            The comment i replied to is advocating shooting at ICE goons.

            Have you shot any of them recently?

            Put your dick away mate.

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          An ideological position like democracy, freedom and liberty? This is why the US is where it is. Those things don’t come from nothing. They come from people willing to fight for them.

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      Under no other president did I fear for the lives of so many Americans.

      I mean, were you around during the Cuban missile crisis?

      Trump’s a total piece of shit, but I do think there’s some serious recency bias.

      The Drug War under Reagan, the War on Terror under Bush, numerous tense years during the height of the Cold War - Stalin getting the H-bomb, Egypt closing the Suez, MacArthur getting forced out of North Korea, the Tet Offensive and subsequent protests, epidemics from AIDS to Polio…

      Things have been bad in the US on and off for a while.