You’re confusing me saying that Rimu’s deplorable ideological stance is contributing to what he decides to implement with the idea that that is only what goes into it.
“but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes”
Lemmy has a slur filter and I’m fine with that, along with the tools Lemmy has so far. I am not okay with a system that has a literal social credit score for social media, and goes to far greater lengths to shut out speech from users.
It doesn’t go to “far greater lengths”. The point here is to mitigate the problems associated with many other social media platforms - trolling, spamming, AI posting, advertising. If you scaled up Lemmy 10 times now, even though it’d still be small compared to Reddit, the base tools would not be up to dealing with those numbers and instances and communities would be overrun by trolls and spammers etc.
“but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes”
Correct, it’s guiding his work. This does not at all mean it’s the only reason. I think you should slow your replies down, you’re speaking at me rather than to me.
It doesn’t go to “far greater lengths”. The point here is to mitigate the problems associated with many other social media platforms - trolling, spamming, AI posting, advertising. If you scaled up Lemmy 10 times now, even though it’d still be small compared to Reddit, the base tools would not be up to dealing with those numbers.
It does go to far greater lengths though, as a user I wouldn’t jump to PieFed due to anti-features like the social credit score system. You only have conjecture to say that Lemmy’s tools aren’t enough, or that it can’t develop new tools as they become important that don’t result in the same kind of censorship PieFed bakes in.
I don’t know what your goal is here, you aren’t going to convince me to jump ship. PieFed isn’t for me, and it isn’t for a lot of users. It’s for some users, and they seem to enjoy it, and that’s fine.
Correct, it’s guiding his work. This does not at all mean it’s the only reason. I think you should slow your replies down, you’re speaking at me rather than to me.
How is it, beyond him setting up instance blocks on lemmygrad/hexbear currently “guiding his work” in any capacity right now when it comes to feature designs or editing? Where do you see in that in the roadmap on the codeberg or in any of the latest updates from 1.4 to 1.5?
It does go to far greater lengths though, as a user I wouldn’t jump to PieFed due to anti-features like the social credit score system.
You only have conjecture to say that Lemmy’s tools aren’t enough, or that it can’t develop new tools as they become important that don’t result in the same kind of censorship PieFed bakes in.
Aren’t you opposing the many admin tools Piefed has here that can be used to isolate problem users and potentially prevent problem posts (anti-AI username checks and autobans, and word filters)? My assumption is that if you oppose these things, then Lemmy doesn’t have it. Note that the reputation feature you’re referring to here doesn’t really have any censorship qualities attached to it, so it’s not really relevant in what I said.
I don’t know what your goal is here, you aren’t going to convince me to jump ship. PieFed isn’t for me, and it isn’t for a lot of users. It’s for some users, and they seem to enjoy it, and that’s fine.
That’s not my goal here at all. I just feel like you’re casting negative motives onto Rimu for no good reason other than you oppose Piefed’s existence.
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Rimu’s expressed problems with Lemmy are impacting the direction PieFed is developing in. I don’t oppose all admin tools, what I oppose is the level of intrustion PieFed’s admin tools have, and the deplorable views of Rimu.
That’s not my goal here at all. I just feel like you’re casting negative motives onto Rimu for no good reason other than you oppose Piefed’s existence.
PieFed can exist for those that want it, that’s the beauty of FOSS. Lemmy exists for those that want it to. Rimu’s negative motives are obvious from his horrible political views and willingness to bake them into PieFed.
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Rimu’s expressed problems with Lemmy are impacting the direction PieFed is developing in.
Yes, but a lot of this is that Lemmy currently lacks what Rimu would see as basic functions or necessary functions.
I don’t oppose all admin tools, what I oppose is the level of intrustion PieFed’s admin tools have, and the deplorable views of Rimu.
By “deplorable views of Rimu” do you just mean… “He’s not a Communist”? If so, does that mean it’s acceptable for people to oppose the “deplorable views” of the Lemmy devs?
What intrusion here do you oppose other than the inherited blocklist of instances (that can be amended by instance owners anyway and has by multiple)?
I don’t particularly care about what Rimu feels Lemmy is lacking. I don’t view him very highly.
My point here is that it’s possible Rimu had in mind a whole bunch of features and direction for Piefed that he felt Lemmy wasn’t going to address or add anytime soon, and so he decided to make his own. The issue here goes beyond just “they’re communist”.
These views are disgusting, and being an anti-communist is what leads Rimu to accept them more readily.
So you don’t mean purely because he’s anti-communist then?
Like I said, I don’t care for systems like the social credit score nor for the fact that blocking is abuseable.
These aren’t admin tools. An admin tool would be, for instance, being able to set up blocks on community creation for new accounts to an instance - or restricting how many links a user can post in their first 24 hours.
It’s not directly relevant (and whatever your positions here are on this - this seems to be a widely reported allegation by many different sources) - I asked you specifically if just him being anti-communist is enough for you to call his views deplorable. If he didn’t, or isn’t on record of believing that regarding China - and you knew nothing else other than he is anti-communist - would you still call his views deplorable?
Also: The block system and ‘social credit’ on Piefed aren’t admin tools. An admin tool would be, for instance, being able to set up blocks on community creation for new accounts to an instance - or restricting how many links a user can post in their first 24 hours.
“but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes”
It doesn’t go to “far greater lengths”. The point here is to mitigate the problems associated with many other social media platforms - trolling, spamming, AI posting, advertising. If you scaled up Lemmy 10 times now, even though it’d still be small compared to Reddit, the base tools would not be up to dealing with those numbers and instances and communities would be overrun by trolls and spammers etc.
Correct, it’s guiding his work. This does not at all mean it’s the only reason. I think you should slow your replies down, you’re speaking at me rather than to me.
It does go to far greater lengths though, as a user I wouldn’t jump to PieFed due to anti-features like the social credit score system. You only have conjecture to say that Lemmy’s tools aren’t enough, or that it can’t develop new tools as they become important that don’t result in the same kind of censorship PieFed bakes in.
I don’t know what your goal is here, you aren’t going to convince me to jump ship. PieFed isn’t for me, and it isn’t for a lot of users. It’s for some users, and they seem to enjoy it, and that’s fine.
How is it, beyond him setting up instance blocks on lemmygrad/hexbear currently “guiding his work” in any capacity right now when it comes to feature designs or editing? Where do you see in that in the roadmap on the codeberg or in any of the latest updates from 1.4 to 1.5?
Aren’t you opposing the many admin tools Piefed has here that can be used to isolate problem users and potentially prevent problem posts (anti-AI username checks and autobans, and word filters)? My assumption is that if you oppose these things, then Lemmy doesn’t have it. Note that the reputation feature you’re referring to here doesn’t really have any censorship qualities attached to it, so it’s not really relevant in what I said.
That’s not my goal here at all. I just feel like you’re casting negative motives onto Rimu for no good reason other than you oppose Piefed’s existence.
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Rimu’s expressed problems with Lemmy are impacting the direction PieFed is developing in. I don’t oppose all admin tools, what I oppose is the level of intrustion PieFed’s admin tools have, and the deplorable views of Rimu.
PieFed can exist for those that want it, that’s the beauty of FOSS. Lemmy exists for those that want it to. Rimu’s negative motives are obvious from his horrible political views and willingness to bake them into PieFed.
Yes, but a lot of this is that Lemmy currently lacks what Rimu would see as basic functions or necessary functions.
By “deplorable views of Rimu” do you just mean… “He’s not a Communist”? If so, does that mean it’s acceptable for people to oppose the “deplorable views” of the Lemmy devs?
What intrusion here do you oppose other than the inherited blocklist of instances (that can be amended by instance owners anyway and has by multiple)?
I don’t particularly care about what Rimu feels Lemmy is lacking. I don’t view him very highly.
And by deplorable views, being a rabid anti-communist is part of it, yes, which leads into uncritically repeating racist conspiracy theories:
And justifying it with articles from far-right think-tanks like the McCain Institute:
These views are disgusting, and being an anti-communist is what leads Rimu to accept them more readily.
Like I said, I don’t care for systems like the social credit score nor for the fact that blocking is abuseable.
My point here is that it’s possible Rimu had in mind a whole bunch of features and direction for Piefed that he felt Lemmy wasn’t going to address or add anytime soon, and so he decided to make his own. The issue here goes beyond just “they’re communist”.
So you don’t mean purely because he’s anti-communist then?
These aren’t admin tools. An admin tool would be, for instance, being able to set up blocks on community creation for new accounts to an instance - or restricting how many links a user can post in their first 24 hours.
Interesting that you’re dodging Rimu’s racism here.
It’s not directly relevant (and whatever your positions here are on this - this seems to be a widely reported allegation by many different sources) - I asked you specifically if just him being anti-communist is enough for you to call his views deplorable. If he didn’t, or isn’t on record of believing that regarding China - and you knew nothing else other than he is anti-communist - would you still call his views deplorable?
Also: The block system and ‘social credit’ on Piefed aren’t admin tools. An admin tool would be, for instance, being able to set up blocks on community creation for new accounts to an instance - or restricting how many links a user can post in their first 24 hours.