You start from the premise that RImu’s entire motive in everything he does here is purely to try to censor communists and nothing else. You then interpet every single different implemention of a feature or function within Piefed as being an extension of that motive.
I have spoke to him many times about all of these functions we’re referencing here, and it all has nothing to do with anything you’re alleging here at all.
I start from the premise that Rimu is building an alternative to Lemmy because of issues he has with Lemmy, which includes the prominence of communists here. I do interpret everything in the context of that motive, yes, because features don’t exist in a vacuum.
Further, my original point is that PieFed is more prone to censorship than Lemmy is by design, which is true, so I’m not sure why you’re trying to hard to laser-focus on one tiny point I made and ignoring the broader point.
I start from the premise that Rimu is building an alternative to Lemmy because of issues he has with Lemmy, which includes the prominence of communists here.
How do you know that’s his only reason for building it - to start off with?
I do interpret everything in the context of that motive, yes, because features don’t exist in a vacuum.
So when Rimu implemented Flairs and Feeds and Community Migration and Events - that was purely to try and mitigate Communist influence?
Further, my original point is that PieFed is more prone to censorship than Lemmy is by design, which is true
Correct, in the sense that instance administrators have more tools to isolate and ban people as compared to Lemmy instances - and the prime reasons here are mostly to mitigate AI posting, trolling, spam and bigotry.
If Rimu didn’t want to create essentially the same thing as Lemmy except programmed in an arguably worse language and more draconian features, then Rimu would not have started the project and instead would have contributed to Lemmy. It sounds like features Rimu wanted to add are either slow to add on Lemmy, or were rejected outright, hence the start of the project. Piefed does not exist independent of Lemmy, but in the context of it, just like Lemmy exists in the context of Piefed.
So when Rimu implemented Flairs and Feeds and Community Migration and Events - that was purely to try and mitigate Communist influence?
Nope, likely not, but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes.
Correct, in the sense that instance administrators have more tools to isolate and ban people as compared to Lemmy instances - and the prime reasons here are mostly to mitigate AI posting, trolling, spam and bigotry.
Sure, so my broader point you agree with me, PieFed’s adoption of social credit scores, harsher censorship tools, and more are more prone to abuse than Lemmy’s tools and thus jumping from Lemmy to PieFed about censorship means you don’t actually care about censorship, but what’s censored.
If Rimu didn’t want to create essentially the same thing as Lemmy except programmed in an arguably worse language and more draconian features, then Rimu would not have started the project and instead would have contributed to Lemmy
Perhaps he wanted full creative control? Piefed currently does a lot of things differently to Lemmy and has currently a faster development cycle.
Did you know Rimu has done various interviews on this? You can watch them.
Nope, likely not, but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes.
This is completely baseless. You think his anti-communist stance here specifically drives his priorities in terms of adding new functions? This really is horrible stuff. You do not even know the man, and have - as far as I know - have barely ever talked to him. His last update was to add the ability for community mods and admins to move posts from community to community, and recently added emote support. That was added primarily due to his “anti-communist stance” - was it?
Sure, so my broader point you agree with me, PieFed’s adoption of social credit scores, harsher censorship tools, and more are more prone to abuse than Lemmy’s tools and thus jumping from Lemmy to PieFed about censorship means you don’t actually care about censorship, but what’s censored.
These are all admin level tools, for the most part. Tell me, do you oppose the idea of a word-filter system (that is not even active currently on piefed.social) that can be adapted to stop people from slurs? Or the fact that instance admins can filter for new users posts being downvoted to identify potential trolls and spammers? Or oppose a system that tries to mitigate AI accounts?
You’re confusing me saying that Rimu’s deplorable ideological stance is contributing to what he decides to implement with the idea that that is only what goes into it.
Lemmy has a slur filter and I’m fine with that, along with the tools Lemmy has so far. I am not okay with a system that has a literal social credit score for social media, and goes to far greater lengths to shut out speech from users.
You’re confusing me saying that Rimu’s deplorable ideological stance is contributing to what he decides to implement with the idea that that is only what goes into it.
“but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes”
Lemmy has a slur filter and I’m fine with that, along with the tools Lemmy has so far. I am not okay with a system that has a literal social credit score for social media, and goes to far greater lengths to shut out speech from users.
It doesn’t go to “far greater lengths”. The point here is to mitigate the problems associated with many other social media platforms - trolling, spamming, AI posting, advertising. If you scaled up Lemmy 10 times now, even though it’d still be small compared to Reddit, the base tools would not be up to dealing with those numbers and instances and communities would be overrun by trolls and spammers etc.
“but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes”
Correct, it’s guiding his work. This does not at all mean it’s the only reason. I think you should slow your replies down, you’re speaking at me rather than to me.
It doesn’t go to “far greater lengths”. The point here is to mitigate the problems associated with many other social media platforms - trolling, spamming, AI posting, advertising. If you scaled up Lemmy 10 times now, even though it’d still be small compared to Reddit, the base tools would not be up to dealing with those numbers.
It does go to far greater lengths though, as a user I wouldn’t jump to PieFed due to anti-features like the social credit score system. You only have conjecture to say that Lemmy’s tools aren’t enough, or that it can’t develop new tools as they become important that don’t result in the same kind of censorship PieFed bakes in.
I don’t know what your goal is here, you aren’t going to convince me to jump ship. PieFed isn’t for me, and it isn’t for a lot of users. It’s for some users, and they seem to enjoy it, and that’s fine.
I don’t think you can judge individual aspects of a broader project and pretend they are entirely distinct and unrelated.
You start from the premise that RImu’s entire motive in everything he does here is purely to try to censor communists and nothing else. You then interpet every single different implemention of a feature or function within Piefed as being an extension of that motive.
I have spoke to him many times about all of these functions we’re referencing here, and it all has nothing to do with anything you’re alleging here at all.
I start from the premise that Rimu is building an alternative to Lemmy because of issues he has with Lemmy, which includes the prominence of communists here. I do interpret everything in the context of that motive, yes, because features don’t exist in a vacuum.
Further, my original point is that PieFed is more prone to censorship than Lemmy is by design, which is true, so I’m not sure why you’re trying to hard to laser-focus on one tiny point I made and ignoring the broader point.
How do you know that’s his only reason for building it - to start off with?
So when Rimu implemented Flairs and Feeds and Community Migration and Events - that was purely to try and mitigate Communist influence?
Correct, in the sense that instance administrators have more tools to isolate and ban people as compared to Lemmy instances - and the prime reasons here are mostly to mitigate AI posting, trolling, spam and bigotry.
If Rimu didn’t want to create essentially the same thing as Lemmy except programmed in an arguably worse language and more draconian features, then Rimu would not have started the project and instead would have contributed to Lemmy. It sounds like features Rimu wanted to add are either slow to add on Lemmy, or were rejected outright, hence the start of the project. Piefed does not exist independent of Lemmy, but in the context of it, just like Lemmy exists in the context of Piefed.
Nope, likely not, but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes.
Sure, so my broader point you agree with me, PieFed’s adoption of social credit scores, harsher censorship tools, and more are more prone to abuse than Lemmy’s tools and thus jumping from Lemmy to PieFed about censorship means you don’t actually care about censorship, but what’s censored.
Perhaps he wanted full creative control? Piefed currently does a lot of things differently to Lemmy and has currently a faster development cycle.
Did you know Rimu has done various interviews on this? You can watch them.
This is completely baseless. You think his anti-communist stance here specifically drives his priorities in terms of adding new functions? This really is horrible stuff. You do not even know the man, and have - as far as I know - have barely ever talked to him. His last update was to add the ability for community mods and admins to move posts from community to community, and recently added emote support. That was added primarily due to his “anti-communist stance” - was it?
These are all admin level tools, for the most part. Tell me, do you oppose the idea of a word-filter system (that is not even active currently on piefed.social) that can be adapted to stop people from slurs? Or the fact that instance admins can filter for new users posts being downvoted to identify potential trolls and spammers? Or oppose a system that tries to mitigate AI accounts?
You’re confusing me saying that Rimu’s deplorable ideological stance is contributing to what he decides to implement with the idea that that is only what goes into it.
Lemmy has a slur filter and I’m fine with that, along with the tools Lemmy has so far. I am not okay with a system that has a literal social credit score for social media, and goes to far greater lengths to shut out speech from users.
“but we can understand that his anti-communist stance is guiding how he works and what he prioritizes”
It doesn’t go to “far greater lengths”. The point here is to mitigate the problems associated with many other social media platforms - trolling, spamming, AI posting, advertising. If you scaled up Lemmy 10 times now, even though it’d still be small compared to Reddit, the base tools would not be up to dealing with those numbers and instances and communities would be overrun by trolls and spammers etc.
Correct, it’s guiding his work. This does not at all mean it’s the only reason. I think you should slow your replies down, you’re speaking at me rather than to me.
It does go to far greater lengths though, as a user I wouldn’t jump to PieFed due to anti-features like the social credit score system. You only have conjecture to say that Lemmy’s tools aren’t enough, or that it can’t develop new tools as they become important that don’t result in the same kind of censorship PieFed bakes in.
I don’t know what your goal is here, you aren’t going to convince me to jump ship. PieFed isn’t for me, and it isn’t for a lot of users. It’s for some users, and they seem to enjoy it, and that’s fine.