Going ahead with the insurrection act means they’re planning to have the army massacre us.
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Why didn’t people believe us when we said America would become like Nazi Germany? Why are there people who still don’t believe it? After it’s over, people will still probably laugh at the comparison
The problem isn’t people not believing it, the problem is the people believing and wanting it who voted for and support Trump.
Maybe I’m naive but I tend to assume people are honest. Trump supporters keep on saying ICE is only enforcing the law and only going after people who entered the country illegally. I tend to assume they’re really that ignorant before believing they support ICE blatantly discriminating against Latino people.
Doubtful they are next, they’re literally the biggest and most challenging places to send ICE. Minnesota is a testing ground for ice resistance just as much as it is ice.
There’s videos of ICE losers abandoning kidnapping people because they couldn’t get through a crowd that wouldn’t give in. Resist! It’s not hopeless. Document the crimes for when the wheels of justice slowly begin turning again in the future…
They’ve done two big, “operations,” in New York, and both of them failed spectacularly and immediately. The population density of that city basically means, no matter where they show up, within minutes there will be several dozen angry people chasing them down the street. They’re getting constant harassment in fucking Minneapolis, they’ve got no hope of getting anything done in NYC.
Also new Yorkers are notoriously angry
I grew up in NYC, live in Boston now. I would say that New Yorkers are rude, impatient, and short-tempered. Bostonians are mean, with a deep-seated rage that’s always threatening to burst to the surface. I don’t know much about Minneapolis, but if they’re anything like the midwesterners I’ve known, they’re kind, polite, and helpful folks. If a large-scale ICE operation provokes that kind of reaction from them, they are not prepared for what they will receive in the Northeast.
That’s comforting
Hopefully, Mamdani is willing to deputize citizens to supplement or outright replace the NYPD, where confronting ICE is concerned. The boys in blue aren’t known for their lawfulness, courage, and good character in the first place.
They’re already spread thin in MN, this will only make that worse. They’re already desperate to fill their ranks with enough bodies, this will only make that worse.
ICE is currently, and is likely to remain, susceptible to infiltration by resistors.
Any able-bodied people who are interested in offering non-violent resistance to preserve democracy should consider whether they’re willing to exploit this opportunity.
How many people that are progressive or liberal or you know not right wing and are low-key infiltrating ice right now for the greater good? I like the idea of like Robin Hooding from the inside but to see all that brutality up close firsthand would probably make my stomach sick, even if I don’t engage in it myself.
How many people that are progressive or liberal or you know not right wing and are low-key infiltrating ice right now for the greater good?
Zero ;)
Thinking that ICE’s collapse is a forgone conclusion seems dangerous given how quickly they’re filling their ranks, and because of how much they are improving their strategies in the Minnesota demo. We should all be on the same page and understand that ICE’s power will flourish and their strategies will be refined in coming months. It’s time to prepare for a future in which ICE is successful, not cling to the hope that ICE is somehow doomed to fail.
ICE is not doomed to fail. But they and this regime will be their most vulnerable in these early stages. A swift, coordinated resistance is required to make the most of this time.
Dangling tens of thousands of dollars in benefits for making brutalizing minorities your job is going to work miracles in a country where many people would do it for free.
In a vacuum, I’d agree with you. But the recent increase in recruitment effort and decrease in recruit screening would seem to suggest otherwise.
Even if you don’t get selected or want to join, every moment they spend processing bogus applications is a moment they can’t spend processing legitimate ones. You can resist by simply bogging down the system with AI-generated fake resumes.
The economy is getting worse and the bonuses ICE offers start to look better and better. People will get desperate.
I see that as a good thing. People who are just in it for the money are more likely to resist, especially if they realize there are more of them than the ones doing it for the love of the game.
Join ice and do as little work as possible and preferably sabotage efforts?
This is what real non-violent resistance looks like
ICE is an obvious attempt by the government to get ICE agents killed by democrats. Essentially fishing bait for a revolution.
It’s not just that. It’s also a terror tactic and a flaunt of their power. If we fight back, they fight back harder. If we don’t fight back, their revolution succeeds without a drop of blood being spilled. Don’t accept their tyranny out of fear of retaliation. The regime will claim we’re revolting at their leisure, regardless of what we do.
Aren’t they offering something like 20K or 30K just for fucking signing up?
At the same time the Taco economy is fucking up everyone’s livelihood?
How many of those sign-up bonuses do think will actually get paid out?
No idea, but people that are in dire circumstances due to Taco fucking over the economy are not likely to ask many questions.
The people who have issue with reading the fine print on a contract aren’t either
I believe you have to be employed for quite a while before they pay the bonus out, (if they ever do)
didn’t all this somalia bullshit start with one deceptively edited youtube video? like the shit james o’keefe did at project veritas
Yep. The same tactics and the same racism, only more of a bullhorn now.
Oh, and zero gatekeeping. Any fool can claim fucking anything and if it goes viral it’s just out there now. James O’Queefe had to sell his bullshit to take down ACORN to Faux News and hope other corporate outlets took up the same story.
Exactly the same
California and New York should withhold federal taxes then
Gonna be hard to pay for goons if you’ve got no money
States don’t pay federal taxes, citizens do.
Easily could change and the state could put together an escrow account. It’s “UNpRECeDENtEd” but WTF isn’t nowadays besides a congress full of spineless do nothings?
This would effectively be a secession from the United States, which would be extremely consequential and very violent.
It’s a proposal that shouldn’t be made flippantly.
don’t go pissing on the culture of texas and the idaho panhandle now boy
Lol is that where the down votes are coming from?
I wasnt even taking a particular stance on the topic, just suggesting that we carefully consider “starting a civil war” as a potential option. I actually like the energy lol
I would rather the US become a war torn wasteland than let Trump invade Europe.
As an American citizen, same. I don’t want to live the rest of my life under a fascist regime.
- Europe needs to stop willingly subjugating itself to the US for its own good.
- I guess if you don’t have anything at stake it isn’t up to you to navigate the consequences of a civil war. The US needs to decline for the good of the world, but unfortunately for it, it’s unable to produce competent leadership, so the process is more rough than it needs to be
People are getting shot by ice goons. Violence may in fact already be here.
Yeah I know, a civil war would be another escalation. I’m saying that the commentary should respect that fact, and respect the fact that if it pops off in 2026, the bad guys win 10/10 times because no preparation has been done whatsoever.
You gotta wonder what outcome he’s going for here.
This guy is just walking around public spaces still people. A drone with some thermite taped to it would probably do it ffs.
I am sure that then everything will get better and the huge cabal of politicians and billionaires will just forget about what they were doing.
Jesus Christ I am so tired of liberals online who are in complete denial of how dire this situation really is. There is no fucking cabal of politicians and billionaires, there doesn’t need to be, because this is a capitalist system that operates in the interest of, go figure, capital. It isn’t a fucking secret society of exceptionally corrupt individuals pushing fascism, they don’t have mind control powers or actual infinite resources to facilitate their nefarious schemes. This system is built to their interest.
Donald Trump’s death does not need to undo a system to still have value. His personality is extremely effective at absorbing the middle class, white, liberal imagination of the violence this system must inflict to survive. So far, he hasn’t even done anything that exceptional relative to hundreds of years of US imperialism. Except, because liberals, like you, are primed to think of this system as perfect bar the few nasty bad actors, they are satisfied with his exceptionally loud delivery of this violence as an explanation for why the violence is happening. Even if it’s just for justice for those his administration is responsible for killing and harming, it would be valuable.
Like, what the fuck else is going to convince you people that violence is going to be necessary? Sorry that it’s scary, but smug denial of this reality is a very short term solution.
I agree with you 100%. Violence will be necessary. Eery day it’s getting harder to control my anger and not just lash out at some Trump supporters near me, there are a bunch. It’s just I have a wife and daughter and I would very much like to walk my daughter down the aisle ten-15 years from now. I love seeing her grow up.
So I feel helpless. Things for me will have to much worse that I know it will endanger my daughter’s future before I’ll probably act.
Stop writing paragraphs upon paragraphs for the benefit of strangers who almost completely agree with you because you’ve assigned them an entire political ideology in your head based off of 3 sentences and go do something that matters.
People like you are extremely uncomfortable with the reality of your words. Its not “in someone’s head” when they make an observation about you that you don’t like. If you don’t want to be a liberal, you should consider more deeply why you advocate for liberalism in how you express your understanding of the world.
I write for a living, takes thirty seconds to write what counts as a paragraph on this site. If four paragraphs on the internet is too excessive for you, I reckon you don’t read about what you pretend to know about all that much.
When Brian Thompson got shot and people cheered on it Peter Thiel was literally speechless. Billionaires dear mortality in an abstract sense, they didn’t seem to think that the plebs could be a le to touch them.
And yet the insurance industry marches on.
Smug. One of the only events in the past few years that incited class solidarity across cultural lines in the US and you see it as valueless because the bullet wasn’t magic.
Discourses after he was shot demonstrated that Americans, regardless of their political affiliations, recognise the systemic failure to address both the cruelty of healthcare denial and create consequences for those in positions of power. You think they fought tooth and nail to find someone to blame after just because they were sad that this guy got shot? Grow up.
You’re wrong about what I think and you’re wrong to assert that that is what I think and I’m not taking you seriously because of it.
Refer to the other comment. I don’t really care if someone like you takes me seriously. I sometimes respond to these things to prevent others like you from feeling too validated when they come across these threads. The deeper you go, you’ll notice its mostly people who hate the first comment that drill down to find others they agree with.
Californian here.
Try it.
Can’t fund fascism without money.
I don’t think there’s an easy California could just withhold money though?
Also Californians don’t have as many guns.
Now Oregon on the other hand…
Perhaps you saw some percentages without looking into the numbers. A lower percentage of households owning in CA is still greater than the number in Oregon. Oregon’s population appears to be 10% of California’s.
Half of Oregon owning guns is still lesser.
By “playbook” do they mean “murdering someone in the street to get people to revolt?”
No fucking shit guys
NYC is gonna go well for these Nazi fucks.
I can’t wait for ICE goons to show up in Chicago or Philadelphia
Or Boston, that place is absolutely littered with arms from right across the border in NH. I can pretty much guarantee that they’d face pissed off locals with guns really quick.
They were already in Cali, why are they coming back?
