Summary: the Iranian government has intensely used lethal force on protesters. In Tehran alone, several hundred people have been killed. In the whole country - most likely several times more.
lmao the same people that just spent the last 3 years saying there was no genocide in gaza is now saying iran are mass murdering people.
You know the story of the boi that cried wolf?
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Source: CIA funded think tank HRANA
Are you implying that there is no revolution or massive protests going on?
It’s not weird at all that the opposition in London is literally flying Israeli flags, not weird at all.
It’s not weird at all that “protestors” are burning mosques instead of attacking government infrastructure.
It’s not weird at all that a west aligned self declared shah (the son of the last shah removed in a revolution) in exile is being pushed into the narrative as a nation character.
No no no, it’s a revolution against an oppressive regime because they want FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY. Let’s spend 20 years of American tax prayers’ money to
destroy and pillage Iran and secure Israel’s expansionist interestsgive them democracy by returning the exiled royal to power.Hmm so are you saying that everyone protesting in Iran is doing so because the cia tricked them into doing it? Could it be at all because people there want change? Not being a dick here btw, looking to have a real discussion
No, I’m not saying they aren’t protesting. I am saying the Israeli aligned thugs burning mosques and getting attacked by authorities in return are not protestors, and while the people of Iran could launch another revolution, they wouldn’t launch it to install an American/Israeli puppet monarch, and they certainly don’t want your military intervention.
Ahh ok, so, so far only people getting shot at, from what you are saying are people who are aligned with Israel and are destroying mosques? Unfortunate that the internet has been shut down, its making it hard to get a clearer picture.
they wouldn’t launch it to install an American/Israeli puppet monarch,
E: I copied the wrong part. I meant to say I wouldn’t blame Iranian people from wanting a revolution.
I wouldn’t blame them.
certainly don’t want your military intervention.
I would hope my country wouldn’t intervene, but its possible the Americans would.
I wouldn’t blame them.
You wouldn’t blame them? For backing the son of MI6/CIA installed puppet for western oil interests?
You must be thrilled with what’s going on in Venezuela!
Very sorry I copied the wrong part, I meant to say I wouldn’t blame them ( the Iranian people) if they wanted to start a revolution, im sorry I wasn’t clear.
You must be thrilled with what’s going on in Venezuela!
Look im genuinely asking questions to try and understand what is happening, I am obviously not ok with what is happening in Venezuela. The sarcasm wasn’t needed.
Some accounts:
Mahsa, a 28-year-old journalist from Mashhad, said on Thursday before her phone connection disappeared: “They’re charging at crowds in vans and bikes. I have seen them slowing down and deliberately shooting at people’s faces. Many have been injured. The streets are full of blood. I fear I am about to witness a sea of dead people.”
A protester from Tehran said: “With great difficulty, thousands of us managed to get online so I could get the news to you. We’re standing up for a revolution, but we need help.”
Sky News, quoted in the article, says that in Tehran, as of Sunday, 466 protesters have been killed. Videos of the identification of bodies by relatives at the Kahrizak forensic medicine center confirm a very large number of dead people. Information about other cities is unavailable and information from Tehran may be incomplete.
Opinion:
There happens to be an influential person who promised to help the protesters - he’s called Donald Trump. I think he should fulfill his promise really fast, because a lot of them are already dead.
I’m a random anarchist from Eastern Europe, and haven’t promised to help them, but would like to. But I don’t speak their language, don’t have contacts there, and likely cannot penetrate the information blackout organized by Iranian government, and could only help with information, not material resources. So I would kindly request the person who promised to protect them to fulfill his promise, preferably yesterday.
as an anarchist
Proceeds to make suggestions about how the biggest authoritarian in recent history needs to be authoritarian.
Please provide an alternative suggestion then.
maybe the americans shouldn’t have coup’ed a democratically elected president in 1953. The regime is ruthless because they inherited the shah’s secret police.
How about white men — who historically have been drawing lines on maps of land that isn’t theirs, colonised, raped and pillaged, which generated the biggest racial wealth inequality in human history — should perhaps stop doing what white men have historically been doing.
It’s okay to be white and say: Iran? No clue, but I hope things get better for those who have it worse than us, but ultimately whatever solution is found, it has to be their solution, not ours.
They have been getting their protests knocked back for years, the regime is ruthless. If there is a path to freedom why should the colour of those who can help matter?
The US are cunts and will likely try to get a pound of flesh, but as it is the flesh is lining the streets.
You’re answering your own question. Because white men never have and never will selflessly offer help to other regimes.
Not to mention, the US is for example the de facto “defence” ally for Australia, but in return they are running pretty secret ops on Australian soil where the Aussies have nothing to say about.
The US right now especially is a totalitarian empire and an incredibly violent nation. This is why I am focussing on the Epstein files, because it would expose the US-Zionist power structure that has been ruling this planet for nearly (or more than) a century. It needs to be brought down, like the Third Reich, dissolved and split up.
The regime in Iran – in part – is so ruthless because of the USA, not despite their help.
Don’t equate white people to Americans. We all know they are cunts. Ireland was a huge part in protesting apartheid, which was selfless. Ireland is currently vocal re Palestine as are multiple other EU countries.
You are just a bitter person who can’t see past their own entrenched hatred.
Not sure where you think I am bitter.
The US hegemony is supported, tolerated and even welcomed by pretty much any white nation on the face of the Earth.
That doesn’t mean Ireland has done some good stuff, so has Norway and Iceland certainly has shown it to be a beacon of hope when it comes to democratic reform. But Ireland is the place with very beneficial corporate tax schemes predominantly benefiting US companies.
How am I the bitter one with entrenched hatred when you call all Americans cunts? That is so not true. The vast majority of white people are quite nice. But they are also incredibly comfortable, and live so vastly above their means, the majority has become comfortable thinking they are the victim (even though there is nothing to support that when compared against their brothers and sisters anywhere else in the known Universe).
This has in turn created more populist movements and frankly a level of never before seen apathy. This has allowed the MIC of mainly the USA to execute regime change anywhere for the betterment of the US-Zionist empire where ever they please, while this white crowd has required less and less convincing narrative for them to do so (with their tax dollars).
And right now, the people in this thread supporting ‘regime change’ in Iran are just unknowing participants in another destabilisation of a sovereign nation (with its own problems) for the sole benefit of Israel. It’s naive and basically pointless.
If you think it’s okay to mess with another nation that isn’t your own, and you truly think Americans are cunts, then why not topple the half a dozen time accused pedophile president of the USA?
Last time I was in Ireland my latino friends were afraid to go in the city center
In short, your proposal, is to do nothing while they get killed.
I’m going to ignore your proposal and try doing something, even if not very effective.
your proposal is to put the shah back
Western intervention in regime change will kill far more Iranians than doing nothing. I could be wrong about that, but the West does not have a good track record.
I think it’s also important to note that the current Iranian regime took power from the brutal dictator that was installed by western powers who overthrew a democratic government.
I sympathise with the Iranian people who are suffering. I just don’t see a way to intervene that won’t make things worse.
That’s what you call it.
Generationally, leaving neighbours and others to do their own thing is actually quite hard.
Do what you will. But don’t call yourself an anarchist then either.
And I’m positive that if your main concern is to do something, there is plenty to do in your own country or neighbourhood.
But don’t call yourself an anarchist then either.
Oh pardon me, high gatekeeper of the anarchist label, for offending thee ever since 2006, whence I usurped that label and filed off the serial numbers too, and used said stolen label to participate in demos, squat a few houses, start an autonomous social center, help out other people with their autonomous social centers, participate in really really free markets, do vegan dinners and picnics, open a freeshop and help run it, and write software that is free and open source - all the time using this label in violation of your highnesses command of only spreading the Official Anarchism (as cast in the Concrete Tablets of Official Anarchism by high-standing and indisputable anarcho-bureaucrats)… and I confess I’ve written political articles under that false label too, denouncing populism and sometimes promoting sortition. I fully expect your high anarchisticalness to promptly tell me that I have indeed done all this wrong, and my life has been in vain.
More concisely: I don’t need your advise to check if something is anarchist. Get off your high horse or ride into the sunset on it.
High horse
Hey pot, meet kettle
Anyway, if you’re that easily offended, you should not call yourself something that triggers you when one anonymous internet dweep on his high horse riding in to the sunset calls you out for briefly not being very anarchistic (unless you’re already in Iran now, because borders are a nation-state control mechanism, and you’re protesting side by side with some protesters that need your Eastern-European ass more than the many refugees trying to find a better life in Europe)
Due to the trigger you didn’t really understand what I am trying to tell you, so anyhow, warm regards from here at the sunset.
Here is a site reporting on Iran from an Anarchist lens. Apologies for not having an English translation
https://anarchistfront.noblogs.org/
As for Trump his “promise” is worthless. In all likelihood what would happen is the removal of the Supreme Leader of Iran (and likely other important figures of the regime.) and a demand the council of clerics name a Supreme Leader who is more subservient to the US.
Some more information written by anarchists a few days ago. Thus, already outdated, but providing it regardless.
Yes the US should take over yet another country, what a great idea for long term stability… That is literally how we ended up here
I think the US is not currently capable of “taking over” Iran, and that should not be a goal.
But it might be capable of assisting the protesters enough for them to prevail. I just worry that it won’t, and there will be a considerably bigger massacre in Iran than the ones that have occurred in recent history.
A thing to fear would be a prolonged civil war in Iran.
Riiight, this time it will work, they will bring freedom I swear 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
How naive can you be lmao
So the US will do is insert another dictator to be leader like they’ve done in the past. I don’t understand how you can still think that they’ll do any good when they have a history of making things worse.
Civil War would suck. But at the same time it’s would give the people the opportunity to have their self determination and walk their own path
This is legitimately Trump’s chance to be eligible for a peace prize but I guess it’s easier to extort someone else’s
