Summary: the Iranian government has intensely used lethal force on protesters. In Tehran alone, several hundred people have been killed. In the whole country - most likely several times more.

  • perestroika@slrpnk.netOP
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    1 day ago

    In short, your proposal, is to do nothing while they get killed.

    I’m going to ignore your proposal and try doing something, even if not very effective.

    • stephan262@lemmy.world
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      24 hours ago

      Western intervention in regime change will kill far more Iranians than doing nothing. I could be wrong about that, but the West does not have a good track record.

      I think it’s also important to note that the current Iranian regime took power from the brutal dictator that was installed by western powers who overthrew a democratic government.

      I sympathise with the Iranian people who are suffering. I just don’t see a way to intervene that won’t make things worse.

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      23 hours ago

      That’s what you call it.

      Generationally, leaving neighbours and others to do their own thing is actually quite hard.

      Do what you will. But don’t call yourself an anarchist then either.

      And I’m positive that if your main concern is to do something, there is plenty to do in your own country or neighbourhood.

      • perestroika@slrpnk.netOP
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        21 hours ago

        But don’t call yourself an anarchist then either.

        Oh pardon me, high gatekeeper of the anarchist label, for offending thee ever since 2006, whence I usurped that label and filed off the serial numbers too, and used said stolen label to participate in demos, squat a few houses, start an autonomous social center, help out other people with their autonomous social centers, participate in really really free markets, do vegan dinners and picnics, open a freeshop and help run it, and write software that is free and open source - all the time using this label in violation of your highnesses command of only spreading the Official Anarchism (as cast in the Concrete Tablets of Official Anarchism by high-standing and indisputable anarcho-bureaucrats)… and I confess I’ve written political articles under that false label too, denouncing populism and sometimes promoting sortition. I fully expect your high anarchisticalness to promptly tell me that I have indeed done all this wrong, and my life has been in vain.

        More concisely: I don’t need your advise to check if something is anarchist. Get off your high horse or ride into the sunset on it.

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          16 hours ago

          High horse

          Hey pot, meet kettle

          Anyway, if you’re that easily offended, you should not call yourself something that triggers you when one anonymous internet dweep on his high horse riding in to the sunset calls you out for briefly not being very anarchistic (unless you’re already in Iran now, because borders are a nation-state control mechanism, and you’re protesting side by side with some protesters that need your Eastern-European ass more than the many refugees trying to find a better life in Europe)

          Due to the trigger you didn’t really understand what I am trying to tell you, so anyhow, warm regards from here at the sunset.