The United States has captured Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and flown him out of the country in a stunning military operation that plucked a sitting leader from office following months of escalating Trump administration pressure on the oil-rich South American nation.
How the hell can they just waltz into a country and just kidnap their leader without committing diplomatic suicide with the rest of the world?
The next US president should finally join the ICC and give retroactive authority to prosecute anyone associated with the current US regime. Neatly sidesteps any pardon shenanigans they’re going to attempt, given a US presidential pardon has no legal standing outside its borders.
The thing is those are all threats people involved in diplomacy can rationalise away as public image stuff and not take seriously. Like don’t get me wrong, it’s going to have them on alert, but it’s not a bridge burning yet.
This is a physical act with no other interpretation. The US invaded a country and kidnapped its leader. This is a burnt bridge.
The US invaded a country that floats on oil and with a socialist government, most Western countries would be more than happy to feast on the crumbs of the pillage of Venezuela.
Yea, Maduro is the successor dictator of a notorious dictator. They’re getting no sympathies from western govts, maybe some chiding the US at best.
The removal of Maduro is a silver lining at best. I wanted the Venezuelan people to toss him out, but now they’ll just have to toss out my govt’s new colonial dictator instead :))))
The most frustrating part of it all is I can’t just drive 30 hours to the white house and start throwing firebombs. I’ve very much come to hate how VAST a country the US is as of late.
Some will, but most will see this as confirmation he will act illegally rather than just threaten to. i.e. an escalation of threat from before this happened.
Because Maduro was a pariah, same as Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein. Obviously, it’s not about liberating the Venezuelan people. The US isn’t even pretending this time. It’s about oil and getting rich.
If you shoot a rat with a shotgun, yeah, maybe don’t do that, but thanks for killing the rat. If you shoot a dog with a shotgun, that’s pretty monstrous. As long as Trump takes out the worst folks, he’ll get away with it.
It’d be nice, but I can’t see a country that has a Hague Invasion Plan to prevent any American from ever being tried by the ICC just, you know, giving that up.
How the hell can they just waltz into a country and just kidnap their leader without committing diplomatic suicide with the rest of the world?
The next US president should finally join the ICC and give retroactive authority to prosecute anyone associated with the current US regime. Neatly sidesteps any pardon shenanigans they’re going to attempt, given a US presidential pardon has no legal standing outside its borders.
Diplomatic suicide with the world happened many months ago, were you sleeping? Threatening Canada, Greenland, who else?
The thing is those are all threats people involved in diplomacy can rationalise away as public image stuff and not take seriously. Like don’t get me wrong, it’s going to have them on alert, but it’s not a bridge burning yet.
This is a physical act with no other interpretation. The US invaded a country and kidnapped its leader. This is a burnt bridge.
The US invaded a country that floats on oil and with a socialist government, most Western countries would be more than happy to feast on the crumbs of the pillage of Venezuela.
Yea, Maduro is the successor dictator of a notorious dictator. They’re getting no sympathies from western govts, maybe some chiding the US at best.
The removal of Maduro is a silver lining at best. I wanted the Venezuelan people to toss him out, but now they’ll just have to toss out my govt’s new colonial dictator instead :))))
The most frustrating part of it all is I can’t just drive 30 hours to the white house and start throwing firebombs. I’ve very much come to hate how VAST a country the US is as of late.
Both colonialism and neocolonialism need to be part of Western education.
But not OUR bridge, can any other diplomat rationalize?
Some will, but most will see this as confirmation he will act illegally rather than just threaten to. i.e. an escalation of threat from before this happened.
They’re still kissing the ring.
And figuratively grasping their knife behind their back …
figuring out how to cut any relience they have with the US. As soon as they can they will abandon us and the working class will suffer.
It’s what the psychopaths want. They want a poor, uneducated subservient proletariat to serve their wants
And you think the US invading another country will make them stop? If anything they’ll kiss harder to try to placate the monster.
I neither said nor implied that.
Because Maduro was a pariah, same as Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein. Obviously, it’s not about liberating the Venezuelan people. The US isn’t even pretending this time. It’s about oil and getting rich.
If you shoot a rat with a shotgun, yeah, maybe don’t do that, but thanks for killing the rat. If you shoot a dog with a shotgun, that’s pretty monstrous. As long as Trump takes out the worst folks, he’ll get away with it.
Not gonna happen. Trump is especially blatant, but imperialism is bipartisan.
Trump always said the quiet part loud.
Not to mention that SCOTUS would never allow it.
Every single goddamn american president after the us became imperialist should go to jail
So since founding.
Sure, they should but I can’t see any US president giving up their war crimes pass.
As an American I love this idea.
Trump and the rest of the GOP at this point are traitors to both their own people, and to the world.
Let’s throw a good number of the democrats in there, too. Not all of them like the GOP, but many of those assholes are also traitors.
It’d be nice, but I can’t see a country that has a Hague Invasion Plan to prevent any American from ever being tried by the ICC just, you know, giving that up.
Manuel Noriega would have a thing to say. At least Noriega was a legit narco boss.
Is it now a free for all for dictators? Trump, Netanyahu, Putin next in line?