Until energy independence can truly be solved (and make no mistake, the fight against both Renewables AND Nuclear is a fight against our base freedoms) we’re stuck with rationing and capitalism has been the least worst way to ration limited energy.
No? Socialism is far better, looking at how socialist countries prioritize electrification and balancing ecological protection with development it’s clear.
‘socialist countries’ is a misnomer only used by Americans - Europe, UK, Aus, NZ - we’re Mixed Market economies.
Capitalism is still the driver of the economy, but we collectively realised that humans must come first. I should probably have said this is what I mean by capitalism, not US style corporatism.
I’m not talking about those imperialist countries, but Cuba, the PRC, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, former USSR, Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc. I don’t lionize the countries you assumed I do that fund their safety nets through imperialism. Both the US Empire and all of the countries you listed are indeed capitalist.
Incorrect. Every single economy I listed has public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy, with the working class in control of the state. The fact that China is developed, and maintains markets for small and medium secondary industries does not mean private ownership is dominant.
Incorrect, I don’t mean “publicly traded” as publicly owned, but actual public ownership, like state-run healthcare. Private ownership is the principle aspect of the US economy. As for working class control, you’re incorrect again:
Until energy independence can truly be solved (and make no mistake, the fight against both Renewables AND Nuclear is a fight against our base freedoms) we’re stuck with rationing and capitalism has been the least worst way to ration limited energy.
Couldn’t disagree more
Thanks for the input.
No? Socialism is far better, looking at how socialist countries prioritize electrification and balancing ecological protection with development it’s clear.
‘socialist countries’ is a misnomer only used by Americans - Europe, UK, Aus, NZ - we’re Mixed Market economies.
Capitalism is still the driver of the economy, but we collectively realised that humans must come first. I should probably have said this is what I mean by capitalism, not US style corporatism.
I’m not talking about those imperialist countries, but Cuba, the PRC, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, former USSR, Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc. I don’t lionize the countries you assumed I do that fund their safety nets through imperialism. Both the US Empire and all of the countries you listed are indeed capitalist.
Bar Cuba every country you mentioned is Capitalist…
China is speedrunning late-state capitalism as we speak…
You think North Korea is capitalist?? How.
Yea that one got me, like, how? Haven’t seen that one yet.
Incorrect. Every single economy I listed has public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy, with the working class in control of the state. The fact that China is developed, and maintains markets for small and medium secondary industries does not mean private ownership is dominant.
So then USA isn’t capitalist either, since most of the companies are publicly owned as a principle aspect of their economy.
The US working class are in control of US as much as the Chinese working class are in control of China.
Incorrect, I don’t mean “publicly traded” as publicly owned, but actual public ownership, like state-run healthcare. Private ownership is the principle aspect of the US economy. As for working class control, you’re incorrect again:
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