That’s probably the worst post I’ve seen all year. And that on 27.12… respect!
Can someone actually explain the Nazi Ukrain claims? I’ve actually tried to search because I want to know both sides even if I disagree with it, but I literally cannot find more than Putin says they are nazi’s.
So like on an international level looking at facism on the rise, just going off the 12 signs.
Powerful and continuing nationalismI can’t quite say wanting to be your own country when another is invading is a fact there. I can see this in the US of our “american exceptionalism”, and the way isreal is lobbying to basically consider themselves special status as examples of it going on today and now.
Disdain for human rightsAgain in the US I can fully see it with our ICE and such, as well as unraveling of Roe vs Wade, burrying of Trans rights etc…
Identification of enemies as a unifying causeAgain can blatently see that in the US, hell as the president is even pushing the opposing party… in isreal I can see it with palestine, and Iran.
Rampant sexismOK yeah I mean some level of that is all over the world
Controlled mass mediaAgain yeah strongly see that in the US with… the current presidency pushing it FCC putting pressure on stations to fire comedians and 60 minutes being pressured to pull stories, and in Russia and Isreal literally murdering journalists.
Obsession with national securityKind of again super blatently a problem in the US, Hard to give judgement of it in ukrain because they are currently being invaded. While being invaded any nation is… well going to be obsessed with security.
Religion and government intertwinedOK so yeah again things I know of extreme with the US, and Isreal. Is this a case in Ukrain, again just looking for actual sources.
Corporate power protected Labor power suppressed Disdain for intellectual and the arts Obsession with crime and punishment Rampant cronyism and corruptionTo blatent and direct to even begin to cover with regards to the US.
So my point is, I’d like actual sourced information. Again not trying to directly call it wrong, I’d like to see, a sourced argument that isn’t “They are just nazi’s, are you triggered?”.
But it is kinda funny a propaganda post gets titled “So easily fooled”. How ironic.
Is that to say that you aren’t credulous about the idea of Ukraine having an election under martial law with only administration figures running? In which by law you aren’t allowed to have an opposition party or deviate from the party line about the war?
If that’s true then sure that’s fucked up but you guys never talk about how Russia and china are doing essentially the same thing.
It is true. Previously:
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
Russia is better but still shitty. It’s closer to the US.
the two countries you’re trying to equate with the third country are themselves too different from each other to be compared
How are they too different to be compared. Genuinely asking. As far as I can tell they aren’t too far apart considering they have very similar outcomes in terms of elections. One party stays in power for all of eternity
The difference is that Ukraine has had several elections and major party changes since their independence. China has one party (different approach to checks and balances), and putin’s russia has only ever had one winning party (rigged elections, real opposition is arrested, poisoned, killed or all of the above).
Russia is like an ex you just can’t get rid of, slashing tyres, going through your trash, killing your pets and threatening any new potential partners.
♬ It’s like raaayaiiin on your wedding day ♬
They’re not fooled they know what’s happening they just love rigged systems when it’s to their benefit, same shit we’ve got at home lol
