Is it when you use capital letters properly?

  • plyth@feddit.org
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    19 hours ago

    I would say only a subset of liberals accept raw Capitalism. Liberals need free markets which is a contradiction with Capitalism.

    To have less capitalistic structures, people would have to support something with no immedite benefits. Just waiting for Capitalism’s decline is like waiting for Reddit’s decline. It’s always there but never so much that the majority switches. Something is missing that people act on their own.

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      16 hours ago

      liberalism is defined by its adherence to capitalism; if you’re not a capitalist, then you’re also not a liberal.

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        14 hours ago

        Liberalism requires individual freedom, including free markets. Capitalism ends with monopolies that destroy free markets.

        It is not the same. Liberal societies must want regulated markets.

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      19 hours ago

      Liberalism is the ideological aspect of capitalism. “Raw capitalism” doesn’r really mean anything.

      To move onto socialism, we need to overthrow the state, replace it with a socialist one, and establish public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Countries like China, Vietnam, and Cuba have already done this, as did the former USSR.

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        14 hours ago

        For liberalism, see sibling comment.

        we need to overthrow the state

        Capitalism is making sure that there is not much of a we.

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          14 hours ago

          Capitalism with monopoly is still capitalism, Liberalism being a failed ideology does not mean it ceases to be Liberalism as it fails. There’s absolutely a we within capitalism, the working classes are a we.

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            10 hours ago

            How would socialism prevent power from accumulating? Liberals could probably do the same with capital.

            There should be a working class we in capitalism but I don’t see it. Why do you think that it exists and that it is not dispersed?

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              9 hours ago

              What do you mean “power accumulating?” This sounds like you’re talking about magic or something. Capitalists use capital for their plunder, I don’t see what you mean by linking that to socialism. As for the working class “we,” are you asking why we aren’t organized? That takes time and effort.