I mean preferably you’d pick top ones to compare, so best in class from both systems. In this case the winner would be from the capitalist side, if your pick was China. That’s what I meant it being a poor example. There’s probably a socialist country that actually beats the capitalist countries when it comes to social safety net and not as many living paycheck to paycheck
China beats the US when it comes to quality of life for those without much money, though. Maybe if you were talking 20 years ago the situation would be different, but China has absolutely surpassed the US. Further, the US Empire relies on imperialism, and has been a developed country for far longer. China at the moment is the world’s most developed socialist country, and it already surpasses the US Empire.
No? I included the Nordics as well. What are you trying to say, here? I used the US Empire as its the dying world hegemon, but use any western European state you like and it’s similar.
It just feels like a “programming is failing” moment to write that in reply to a comment questioning the focus on the US when the comparison was just to capitalist countries.
I mean jeez. There’s other countries out there and we were talking about those beating China. If you feel like the Nordics have poorer safety nets than China or more people living paycheck to paycheck just say that, instead of a reply talking about US for whatever reason…
When you say “top of the world,” the US is the world hegemon with the greatest amount of wealth and plunder. It distributes it very poorly because it’s a dying capitalist empire, of course. Nordic countries are in some ways behind China and in some ways ahead even if they fare better than the US, but that’s because of imperialism still, and not an example of capitalism working. China shows that, despite developing far later than the imperialist west (take your pick on whichever one), it has managed to develop far more quickly and for the benefit of all, rather than an elite few.
Don’t insinuate that I’m a bot. Dehumanization is bad. Either explain what you mean by “best in class” or accept that it’s possible that someone would interpret it as I did.
It’s lashing out more violently, sure, but the global south is actually developing thanks to increased south-south trade and an erosion of western tech monopoly. The rise of China is contributing greatly to this.
I mean preferably you’d pick top ones to compare, so best in class from both systems
The topic was about people living paycheck to paycheck and social safety net… So take top ones in that category from both systems and compare them to find the overall winner.
But that doesn’t make sense, you compare among peers in development timeframes where you can, as well as size and location. Nordic countries tend to have good safety nets, but they also fund them from imperialism, and they’ve been developing for a longer period of time. China isn’t imperialist, and it’s only recently been developing. If you’re trying to compare capitalism and socialism as systems, you have to compare their trajectories and where they’ve come from, not static snapshots.
Sure, but they’re also useful examples.
I mean preferably you’d pick top ones to compare, so best in class from both systems. In this case the winner would be from the capitalist side, if your pick was China. That’s what I meant it being a poor example. There’s probably a socialist country that actually beats the capitalist countries when it comes to social safety net and not as many living paycheck to paycheck
China beats the US when it comes to quality of life for those without much money, though. Maybe if you were talking 20 years ago the situation would be different, but China has absolutely surpassed the US. Further, the US Empire relies on imperialism, and has been a developed country for far longer. China at the moment is the world’s most developed socialist country, and it already surpasses the US Empire.
Hypothetically which county in China offers the best social safety net?
Major cities tend to have better infrastructure and access to care. I don’t know about “best” though.
Did you just make the whole thing about USA? Fucking hell, this America centrism is killing me
No? I included the Nordics as well. What are you trying to say, here? I used the US Empire as its the dying world hegemon, but use any western European state you like and it’s similar.
I mean jeez. There’s other countries out there and we were talking about those beating China. If you feel like the Nordics have poorer safety nets than China or more people living paycheck to paycheck just say that, instead of a reply talking about US for whatever reason…
When you say “top of the world,” the US is the world hegemon with the greatest amount of wealth and plunder. It distributes it very poorly because it’s a dying capitalist empire, of course. Nordic countries are in some ways behind China and in some ways ahead even if they fare better than the US, but that’s because of imperialism still, and not an example of capitalism working. China shows that, despite developing far later than the imperialist west (take your pick on whichever one), it has managed to develop far more quickly and for the benefit of all, rather than an elite few.
Don’t insinuate that I’m a bot. Dehumanization is bad. Either explain what you mean by “best in class” or accept that it’s possible that someone would interpret it as I did.
Why do you say the US is dying? Seams to be imperialising and monopolising better than ever to me.
It’s lashing out more violently, sure, but the global south is actually developing thanks to increased south-south trade and an erosion of western tech monopoly. The rise of China is contributing greatly to this.
What I said:
The topic was about people living paycheck to paycheck and social safety net… So take top ones in that category from both systems and compare them to find the overall winner.
But that doesn’t make sense, you compare among peers in development timeframes where you can, as well as size and location. Nordic countries tend to have good safety nets, but they also fund them from imperialism, and they’ve been developing for a longer period of time. China isn’t imperialist, and it’s only recently been developing. If you’re trying to compare capitalism and socialism as systems, you have to compare their trajectories and where they’ve come from, not static snapshots.