European leaders are considering dumping $2.34 trillion in US debt if Trump abandons Ukraine, potentially triggering an economic crisis worse than 2008

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    2 hours ago

    Potential for a nightmare scenario:

    1. Trump dumps Ukraine for Russia.

    2. EU dumps $2.34 trillion in US debt

    3. Trump pulls out of NATO.

    4. Russia invades Poland or some other NATO country.

    5. US Dollar is worthless so we couldn’t do anything if we wanted to, and Trump is on Russia’s side anyway.

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    9 hours ago

    Using the phrase “nuclear option” metaphorically is pretty dumb when we’re talking about a war where parties have threatened to use actual nuclear weapons.

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    9 hours ago

    As someone from the US, do it, rip the bandaid off, this is going to get much much worse before things have the chance to get better and good people here have all been rejected from having meaningful power.

    edit this news source is questionable

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    Haven’t they threatened this already? I say do it. Dump the debt and watch Trump go mad. The real fuck stick though is Miller. Trump is just lettings him fucking Nazi all over the place.

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      Miller is less dangerous than Vance: the former is an obvious nutjob while the latter, as much the Nazi as Miller, masquerades as a somewhat reasonable - if slightly creepy - human being

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        Miller is one of the writers of project 2025. Vance is a dumbass mouth piece that follows directions. He’s like the little kid behind the large bully.

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    9 hours ago

    I’ve seen other articles floating this idea but is this something that’s confirmed? This article refers to the Wall Street Journal but is there a concrete source in which EU representatives are quoted or a written proposal that would suggest such a course of action for me to look up?

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      9 hours ago

      I was going to ask the same. Also how come a US outlet has this and I haven’t seen anything on Europe-centric channels.

      Sometimes one just has to wait a day or so.

      I’m also unclear about what “dumping” those trillions actually means? If we truly had the USA by the balls like that I’m sure I’d have heard about this sooner.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        Everyone has the US by the balls, that’s what the USD being reserve currency means.

        Everyone owns a lot of USD, both cash and securities, so when the US prints money, inflation hits all the world.

        Dumping basically means saying “hey, I’ve got the entire US GDP here in cash USD, I’m selling it for 100 EUR”, and watching the US go hyperinflating.

        The catch is that it would crash the world economy.

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          Dumping basically means saying “hey, I’ve got the entire US GDP here in cash USD, I’m selling it for 100 EUR”, and watching the US go hyperinflating.

          Oh. That sounds like a lose-lose situation.

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    Wouldn’t they just be shooting themselves in the foot here? Even with all the talk about decoupling and tariffs, the European and American economy are still heavily intertwined and a recession in the US will almost certainly spread to the EU.

    Look at what happened in 2008, some wall street crooks made some stupid bets on mortgages and then the euro-zone got sent into a debt crisis.

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    9 hours ago

    Right wing media company saying false (based on what I’ve read) information. Typical, references that the wall street journal got information from European intelligence agencies. Yet, I haven’t seen anything to corroborate that from the WSJ itself. Intelligence agencies aren’t typically known for posting and explaining their plans. If the US economy crashes, the world’s economy crashes. It would be economic mutually assured destruction.

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    9 hours ago

    If it was any other paper, including weekly world news and the national enquirer, I might take notice. It’s the express. I personally have never read anything accurate or correct in that paper.