I’d love to see the “religious right” wake up a bit to what being “conservative” has actually come to mean. The current level of cognitive dissonance has been a long time in the making.
I’m a little tired of pretending people just don’t understand what is going on. Conservatives are fucking liars. They lie about their beliefs. They lie about their understanding. They feign ignorance at the horror and buy into nakedly fake conspiracy theories and artificially generated images/videos. To quote Upton Sinclair
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
The common denominator across the conservative movement is industry of employment. O&G, FinTech, Sales, Real Estate, Automotive, MLMs… If you find a staunch conservative pundit, you’re going to quickly discover one or more of the above puffing up their financial sails.
Religious Right figures know full well that their religious leadership differs from their political leadership and they don’t care. Their dioceses are funded with the money from extractive and exploitative industries. Their churches are built with blood money. And they’re going to defend that money far more zealously than they defend some random asshole from Chicago promoted to the highest office via a conclave of foreign fucks most of them couldn’t pick out of a crowd in full uniform.
The current level of cognitive dissonance has been a long time in the making.
It isn’t dissonance. Its a pronounced divorce between the local churches and Rome that’s been widening since Vatican II. As Catholicism spreads across the developing world and shrivels in the imperial core, the so-called Catholics find their economic future and their religious faith at odds. And they aren’t flinching in response. They’re going all in on the money.
I think there is a bit of cultural narcissism underpinning it all. It’s the mindset that they are the special ones chosen for preferred treatment by the omnipotent ruler of the universe. No matter the issue, we’re the good ones and the other guy is bad, and leopards won’t eat our faces. It’s only when the cruel grifters they’ve voted into power casually do something that directly harms them do they begin to wonder if something might be wrong, but they assume it must be some oversight or unintentional error. “My exalted master, President Trump. You’ve deported my wife and sent my children to a Nicaraguan gulag, and I’m thinking that there must be some sort of error. We’ve followed all the rules, and hate everyone you hate. Surely we’re ‘the good ones,’ right? Right!?!”
There are lots of modern examples of “Jews for Hitler”, that’s for sure.
If things get bad enough, I’m sure even the very monied class but that are one the “wrong” side of some kind of sorting - including people like Thiel - will find themselves on the other end of that gun and they will be the most Pikachu-faced if it happens. Again, they apparently learned nothing from history. I’m sure the well-heeled Jews under Hitler thought their money would protect them, too.
Thiel is gay and I’m more than sure that a mobbed-up government that is pointed at him would be more than happy to seize all his assets, redistribute to the “worthy” people, and throw him in prison. Doesn’t matter if he identifies as a billionaire and has weird xtian beliefs that match with “maga” (whatever the fuck that term means - it’s just baby-talk, and I have a feeling that just like fascism, it doesn’t really have much of an ideology for a reason. It means whatever the current cult leaders says it means).
The analogy I’ve always heard is “living inside the fence” versus “outside the fence”. And how your perceived position shapes how you behave politically.
But I also see this painfully naive assumption that Democrats are actually for looser immigration policy or that a democratic administration won’t end in your wife/kids getting the old heave hoe.
In the end, it’s just two Have Nots arguing which plutocrat would trickle down on them better. There’s no reason to vote for Trump, but no reason to vote against him either. Doubley so when you realize your vote isn’t even impacting the election’s outcome.
If every Republican had a crystal ball and could know with perfect certainty whether their immediate family would suffer from Trump’s immigration policy… he would still be president today. The margins were too wide and the deck was too stacked.
i’ll never understand how someone can claim to be Christian and not be considered radical and “left wing” by the current standards of the Overton Window. To behave like Christ is, compared to what happens today, to be a fucking radical.
You are talking about red letter xtians. They are very few in number and influence.
I was raised a liberal xtian, and when I started talking to other xtians (or coming across Jack Chick tracts) and about what they believe and espouse, it really sent my mind reeling. I had read quite a bit of the NT myself at a fairly early age, and later, I read the OT. If you take the red letter stuff and try to make the conservative ideology fit, it doesn’t really work.
Most of today’s most vocal and prominent xtians seem to glom onto more the fire and brimstone stuff, assuming all that punishment will be dealt out to others and not them. Also, quite a few are definitely NOT readers, and probably have never even read even a few pages of either NT or the OT. Quite a few are fixated on things that are entirely off the ranch, meaning things like the Left Behind stuff…
They’ll get to sit at the side of the character of Jesus and watch those other people (again, not them - they are not perfect, just forgiven) eternally tormented. You don’t have to have a degree in psychology to realize this is the kind of sick fantasy that sounds more like something a character like Hannibal Lecter would dream up rather than something to ground a moral philosophy in. Their idea of “heaven” is watching other people getting tormented? Talk about telling on yourself. That is some truly depraved stuff.
I’d love to see the “religious right” wake up a bit to what being “conservative” has actually come to mean. The current level of cognitive dissonance has been a long time in the making.
I’m a little tired of pretending people just don’t understand what is going on. Conservatives are fucking liars. They lie about their beliefs. They lie about their understanding. They feign ignorance at the horror and buy into nakedly fake conspiracy theories and artificially generated images/videos. To quote Upton Sinclair
The common denominator across the conservative movement is industry of employment. O&G, FinTech, Sales, Real Estate, Automotive, MLMs… If you find a staunch conservative pundit, you’re going to quickly discover one or more of the above puffing up their financial sails.
Religious Right figures know full well that their religious leadership differs from their political leadership and they don’t care. Their dioceses are funded with the money from extractive and exploitative industries. Their churches are built with blood money. And they’re going to defend that money far more zealously than they defend some random asshole from Chicago promoted to the highest office via a conclave of foreign fucks most of them couldn’t pick out of a crowd in full uniform.
It isn’t dissonance. Its a pronounced divorce between the local churches and Rome that’s been widening since Vatican II. As Catholicism spreads across the developing world and shrivels in the imperial core, the so-called Catholics find their economic future and their religious faith at odds. And they aren’t flinching in response. They’re going all in on the money.
I think there is a bit of cultural narcissism underpinning it all. It’s the mindset that they are the special ones chosen for preferred treatment by the omnipotent ruler of the universe. No matter the issue, we’re the good ones and the other guy is bad, and leopards won’t eat our faces. It’s only when the cruel grifters they’ve voted into power casually do something that directly harms them do they begin to wonder if something might be wrong, but they assume it must be some oversight or unintentional error. “My exalted master, President Trump. You’ve deported my wife and sent my children to a Nicaraguan gulag, and I’m thinking that there must be some sort of error. We’ve followed all the rules, and hate everyone you hate. Surely we’re ‘the good ones,’ right? Right!?!”
There are lots of modern examples of “Jews for Hitler”, that’s for sure.
If things get bad enough, I’m sure even the very monied class but that are one the “wrong” side of some kind of sorting - including people like Thiel - will find themselves on the other end of that gun and they will be the most Pikachu-faced if it happens. Again, they apparently learned nothing from history. I’m sure the well-heeled Jews under Hitler thought their money would protect them, too.
Thiel is gay and I’m more than sure that a mobbed-up government that is pointed at him would be more than happy to seize all his assets, redistribute to the “worthy” people, and throw him in prison. Doesn’t matter if he identifies as a billionaire and has weird xtian beliefs that match with “maga” (whatever the fuck that term means - it’s just baby-talk, and I have a feeling that just like fascism, it doesn’t really have much of an ideology for a reason. It means whatever the current cult leaders says it means).
The analogy I’ve always heard is “living inside the fence” versus “outside the fence”. And how your perceived position shapes how you behave politically.
But I also see this painfully naive assumption that Democrats are actually for looser immigration policy or that a democratic administration won’t end in your wife/kids getting the old heave hoe.
In the end, it’s just two Have Nots arguing which plutocrat would trickle down on them better. There’s no reason to vote for Trump, but no reason to vote against him either. Doubley so when you realize your vote isn’t even impacting the election’s outcome.
If every Republican had a crystal ball and could know with perfect certainty whether their immediate family would suffer from Trump’s immigration policy… he would still be president today. The margins were too wide and the deck was too stacked.
i’ll never understand how someone can claim to be Christian and not be considered radical and “left wing” by the current standards of the Overton Window. To behave like Christ is, compared to what happens today, to be a fucking radical.
They don’t believe in the Christ you describe. They believe in Supply Side Jesus
oh first hearing that. will look.
That link is to a cartoon from Al Franken’s book. So it is satire, but becoming more real every day.
oh i just pulled it up. reads like a current era documentary 😂
Comes from a great book, too.
You are talking about red letter xtians. They are very few in number and influence.
I was raised a liberal xtian, and when I started talking to other xtians (or coming across Jack Chick tracts) and about what they believe and espouse, it really sent my mind reeling. I had read quite a bit of the NT myself at a fairly early age, and later, I read the OT. If you take the red letter stuff and try to make the conservative ideology fit, it doesn’t really work.
Most of today’s most vocal and prominent xtians seem to glom onto more the fire and brimstone stuff, assuming all that punishment will be dealt out to others and not them. Also, quite a few are definitely NOT readers, and probably have never even read even a few pages of either NT or the OT. Quite a few are fixated on things that are entirely off the ranch, meaning things like the Left Behind stuff…
They’ll get to sit at the side of the character of Jesus and watch those other people (again, not them - they are not perfect, just forgiven) eternally tormented. You don’t have to have a degree in psychology to realize this is the kind of sick fantasy that sounds more like something a character like Hannibal Lecter would dream up rather than something to ground a moral philosophy in. Their idea of “heaven” is watching other people getting tormented? Talk about telling on yourself. That is some truly depraved stuff.
But if they wake up then they’ll be woke and they all agree that woke is bad.