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      Depends on what kind of leftist.

      I don’t think most like USA style gun culture, nor are they against regulated gun ownership.

      In most cases they become more anti-gun in post-revolutionary society but are more pro-gun when faced with the threat of living under fascist rule or wanting to one day organize a revolution.

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      Prominent leftist ideology and writers don’t glorify gun ownership or turn them into identity pieces, but they absolutely do see their value for attaining and protecting rights. A lot more leftists own guns than people realize, they just don’t advertise it to threaten and intimidate like fascists do. Many of our rights and freedoms only came about because people were willing to actually fight for them. This is a famous Marx quote: Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

      There’s no putting the cat back in the bag, so we may as well regulate their access and provide education and training for their use before they can be owned, as well as how to effectively avoid their use in the case of defense, and mitigate the damage in the aftermath of their use.

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        Many of our rights and freedoms only came about because people were willing to actually fight for them.

        Just “many?” Try to name one that didn’t!

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          I don’t need to, as we aren’t disagreeing. Same spirit, difference in phrasing. Everything is good, no need to infight

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          The right to have a popup on every website asking if you’d like to accept or decline cookies. 😂 (j/k)

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        Rule number (i forgot which number) of the internet is that everyone is a white, american, male until proven otherwise.

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        In the states it also varies a lot. You have groups like the the socialist rifle association, but lots of american leftists are also anti-gun, there’s a range of views on the subject.

        I would guess its the majority of american leftists that are anti-gun, but I could certainly be mistaken

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          I’m an American leftist who isn’t overly fond of guns, but the way I see it, our choices are:

          • The fascists are the only ones with guns
          • The fascists aren’t the only ones with guns
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          Outside of the US there are also differing opinions. I support guns for self defense. I don’t like guns, but who am I to tell marginalized people to stay unarmed as the state tramples over them.