I’m depressed and I wanna listen to music… 🥲
Its just fearmongering right?
I don’t max the volume, just turn it high enough to hear it, if I used speakers, I’d also turn it so that my ears detect the “same volume” so I don’t get why headphones is worse? Literally the same volume.
Also privacy, I don’t want others to know what I’m listening, the fuck lol.
It’s a myth that headphones cause more ear damage than speakers.
95dBs measured at the eardrum are 95dBs independently if the source is 10m away or inside your ear canal.
Now most people tend to blast louder on headphones than they do on speakers, I tend to do the opposite, so in my case speakers cause more damage.
If you “just turn it high enough to hear it” then there’s no damage. In fact if you listened to speakers you would have to probably turn it louder to overcome the environment noise than you do on headphones that muffle outside noise.
If you search “OSHA dB chart” you should get a basic idea of how loud is loud, note than ear damage is cumulative, so it’s OK to blast super loud for few minutes a day, on the other hand if you listen to music all day you need to play at lower levels.


Also, listen to your body, if after a listening session you hear tinnitus (ringing in your ears), then it’s too loud. (That doesn’t mean it’s OK just because you don’t hear ringing)
I usually listen around 100dB(A) but I don’t recommend it.
Headphones are absolutely fine. I tend to crank music and have 0 loss in hearing over the last 10 years (we get annual hearing tests at work for OSHA). I do have a significant hearing loss in one ear but that is genetics and hasn’t gotten worse in 3 decades of using headphones.
Just don’t turn it up so loud it hurts, and once you find an initial good volume don’t turn it up later. You acclimate to the sound level so it seems quieter.
If you have to use headphones, use soundcancelling like AirPods Pro or whatever else that has noise-canxelling and set your phone to use headphone safety where it reduces the maximum volume to as much as it can
I used to mow lawns growing up. Would listen to headphones to drown out the mower. 30 years later I essentially hear this 24/7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D96_1AsUajA My wife (and everyone else who knows me) knows my general hearing is bad, but not horribly so, and much worse in noisy situations. There are times when I don’t hear that tone as much, but it’s there every morning when I wake up and it’s quiet.
Also, at max volume, I had to hold the phone speaker on my ear to make sure that video was even making a noise.
Frequencies above 6k-7k have disappeared/are always there.
Do yourself a favor and take advantage of noise-canceling headphones so you can keep the volume down.
Been doing it for almost 30 years. I still have better and more precise hearing than most.
However
Most people in the “headphones bad”-crowd fail to understand that it’s the volume and not the medium at fault. I’ve always been very afraid of permanent damage to my senses, ears and eyes in particular, so as much as I love head banging to loud music, I ensure it’s not too loud. I’m the kind of person who brings earplugs to a concert (the type that dampens the audio without distorting it). I rarely need them, but I keep them with me just in case.
Sounds like what someone says who wants to know and control what you’re listening to
Bruh they really have no right to judge. They watch short-form videos on WeChat in the livingroom on loudspeakers. Weird skits with overdramatized acting. WTF are they even watching. Its like tik-tok but more boomer and cringy.
I’ll teach you a trick: if something really is as bad as someone says then why does everyone do it? I would say like the majority of young people on public transportation are using earbuds for their daily commute and they’re obviously not deaf
Anyways I’ve played guitar and used earbuds since like 12 and my ears are certainly not in a good place.
Listen to music at comfortable levels and don’t max it out even if it feels like you want to.
I’m far from deaf though.
if something really is as bad as someone says then why does everyone do it?
Remember when everyone smoked and we were taught that it was good for our health?
The harm in OP’s example is immediate.
I was under the impression that hearing loss is usually a gradual thing.
That’s absolutely insane logic. “Everyone’s doing it, it must be fine, right?” You know how many incredibly cancerous and harmful materials were once in common use by everyone?
you’re right now that I think about it doesn’t make sense to say that, consult experts is better advice
consult experts is better advice
Boom! Take THAT, anti-vaxxers!
Bad logic, yes, but it stands in this case because the harm is immediate, not in some future decade. Given such widespread use, headphones must be OK or doctors would have been sounding the alarm decades ago after seeing young people with blown out ears.
Headphones don’t make you go deaf, it’s the volume level. Just keep the volume low and your hearing will be fine.
Another crucial part is duration. You can still damage your hearing if you’re listening to something at 70 decibels. For example, if you were listening to something that loud all day long for months, . In fact you could probably change your hearing with things even quieter than that if you’re constantly hearing it for long durations.
If you have your headphones in and you’re constantly listening to something for hours on end everyday, chances are, you are causing changes to your hearing. It will start as hearing fatigue. And if you keep pressing, eventually you’ll start to hear a mild ringing in your ears that may never go away. Keep pressing even further, yeesh… I don’t think it’s advisable to listen to anything constantly for months on end, no matter how quiet.
Please take breaks that last hours. If you want to maximize listening during the waking hours, then it’s probably a good idea to sleep with ear plugs if you can. It’s also good idea to take a day off, or even a week, if you can. Sometimes even take a month off.
I have been obsessed with listening to new music for three decades, I’ve also been in plenty of bands, it took quite a few shows. I am now beginning to pay the price of my lack of care towards protecting my hearing.
Don’t be like me; protect your hearing!!
Not even low, just not maxed out. I got a pair of cheap KZ’s in ear guys that I use for yardwork. And since I’ve started using them I’ve noticed the frequency of tinnitus events I have had fallen sharply.
If I’m having a bad tinnitus day I put on a set of headphones and use a pink/brown noise generator, some will sweep between the two or other colours as well. An hour or so of that will usually soothe it out for a good while.
Fear mongering. Definitely.
Depends entirely on the volume and time spent at that volume.
Just using headphones in general? No.
As someone who has had tinnitus for nearly 30 years, PLEASE take care of your ears. Headphones don’t always mean T, but if you listen loud enough, you WILL get T. Respect ear health.
Do you still have it?
Yep, me too. I had a type of headphones way back when, one they don’t build anymore because it brings the speaker membrane too close to your inner ear. That, the kind of music I liked to listen to, and many loud live concerts…
What are you talking about. It has nothing to do with the speaker being too close to your ear, its because they were an awful design. Regular earbuds get the driver just as close and are still made, but arent very popular. The style has trended more towards in ear monitors because they seal your ear canal and get better bass. Due to the sealing IEMs are probably worse for your ears if you crank the volume but you probably don’t need to crank them as loud since they provide some passive noise cancellation.
Fucking memories! I had these headphones and the bar style portable fm radio with the same color scheme. I’m so happy my tinnitus is pretty limited.
Yeah I’m hearing impaired on my left ear. Probably from sitting with headphones half off, playing world of warcraft and listening to loud music all day every day back in the day. I wouldn’t recommend it. I’m lucky in that it isn’t entirely gone, but I’d be lying if I said that it hasn’t affected my life.
As others have already said: take breaks. It’s really easy (speaking from experience) to “get used” to a volume level that’s way too loud, ESPECIALLY if using isolating or noise-cancelling headphones.
Part of how your brain determines if something is too loud is its contrast with the environment. Yelling at the top of your lungs sounds a lot louder in a quiet library than it does in the middle of a live concert. Taking a break both recalibrates your sense of loudness and gives your ears a rest.
If you can afford decent “reference” or “studio” headphones, you’ll enjoy the same music at MUCH quieter levels than cheaper or lower-quality headphones. They are designed to be used for long periods of time by professional audio engineers and musicians, who are notoriously protective of their hearing and perfectionistic about even the most subtle of sounds.
Although I was a broke college student and couldn’t afford hardly anything they talked about, I learned a ton scrolling through audiophile forums like Head-Fi ( https://www.head-fi.org/forums/ ). Now I’m less broke, but somehow equipment envy and window-shopping just feels more right than spending way too much money on something I probably don’t have the time to enjoy anymore… Such is life.
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Yeah, it is a bit more fatiguing on your ears but not inherently more dangerous to them, what is important is to listen to your body and don’t push it too long for too loud. Your ears need breaks! It is weird but true. Damage doesn’t come from headphones, it comes from not paying attention to your body and not giving your ears the breaks they need.
What I would say is if you are turning up music on your headphones to drown out something else that is loud, that is when you are much more likely to hurt your ears without realizing. Try to get noise cancelling headphones if you find yourself doing that.
Listen to this guy OP. Don’t be like me and give yourself tinnitus by your early 20s listening to Nine Inch Nails full volume for hours on end. Aint worth it.
(not so) fun fact: tinnitus can cause chronic depression and anxiety! Ask me how I know …
Same, but SOAD
I have you tagged from an older post and remember your mom saying some whack ass shit in another post you made. Headphones won’t make you deaf unless you’re absolutely blasting your music at full volume.
I hope you’re feeling better soon and not letting her shit get you down. You got this.
Your reply made me wonder: perhaps this is about more than the headphones? I’m not saying this justified her statement, but perhaps his mother feels like she isn’t being heard?
Tinnitus? Yes, if you listen to very loud music a lot
for years and years. Deaf? No.Trust me, you can get tinnitus from listening to very loud music just the once. I’ve had it since I stood next to a speaker during a concert. Why the speaker was so low down is beyond me. Wasn’t able to hear anything for a couple of hours and I’ve been hearing gas boiler noises ever since.
People made fun of me for using foam ear plugs at a concert, and the occasional gun range idiot who throw various insults my way. Then I shoot my 7.5 inch ar and they either leave or get their own ear pro. Fucking chuds also I’m sorry you gotta deal with it. I’ve had a few episodes of it, but it’s nice not having it be a constant struggle. So I’m sorry you gotta deal with that. I also had a handful of “exploding head syndrome” moments and I honestly didn’t know which is worse.
Oooh, they’re fun (not), especially when they happen in the middle of the night.
They seem to only happen when I’m right on the cusp of sleep!











