The indictment specifically accuses Abughazaleh, among others, of banging aggressively on the windows, hood and other areas of the agent’s car, pushing against it to “hinder and impede its movement” and etching the word “PIG” on the car.
This is so dumb. Oh no! The ICE agent was scared! Almost exactly like how he makes everyone else feel!
Kat is a really good voice to have and this is the dumbest thing you can throw against her. Criticize her about how she’s not running in the district she lives in, how she moved to Illinois from Texas and within a very short time decided to run for congress
against a Democratic congresswoman who the community of the district genuinely likes and has been rather progressive( I have been corrected, the congresswoman is retiring). About how she’s acting like she knows a lot about the district saying she lives right next to a bus line that is a few stops away from that district despite the fact that bus line doesn’t go to that district. Not this horseshit.She running for an open seat though? Or is one of her opponents a congresswoman in a neighboring district or a state congresswoman?
Edit at the top: the seat she is running for is going to be empty so that’s at least one area of criticism she shouldn’t face.
She is running in a seat currently held by a Democratic congresswoman who, to be fair, has been in office for a while. It’s a primary and she’s running against her. Not an open seat unless the current congresswoman has recently announced she won’t be running which would have had to happen in the last couple weeks and I think is unlikely.This was in May, Jan Schakowsky, the congresswoman for IL-09, announced shw would not run for reelection in 2026. So not really the past few weeks. Am I missing something? https://schakowsky.house.gov/media/press-releases/schakowsky-announces-she-will-not-seek-re-election-2026.
Ah I see, you’re not missing something. I was basing it off of her AMA on reddit from a long while ago now when Jan hadn’t announced her retirement yet.
Still think she deserves criticism for running in a district she doesn’t live in and for moving from texas to Illinois and within a year running for Congress there. But she at least is running for an empty seat. There are also several other candidates in the race who are just as progressive who actually live in the district.
She challenged a solid left ish area instead of where she lives where she could’ve pushed more progressive. Bothers me.
If she gets arrested for exercising her first amendment rights, you might as well drop all pretense of being a democracy.
Banging on car windows is now a First Amendment right?
Shut up bitch
That’s a better example.
I mean, debatably yes. It really hinges on whose window, why the banging, and how the banging was done.
Yep just like manufacturing consent is a reason to indict someone
Are you saying it is a right, but you don’t agree with it?
Actually I was walking right past what you were saying because I refuse to have this conversation. The actions depicted in every video I’ve seen of the incident do not constitute a threat to the officers or to property. The only reason this is being brought to a judge at all is because of politics.
Yes, there seemed to be a disconnect. I think what you’re saying is that the banging car windows is a pretense, and the real reason for the arrest is for exercising First Amendment rights.
The reason given for the arrest is the banging and interference, and I thought you were saying those are protected.
I can say cops banged on my window or hood many times and never faced charges. Heck friends have just indicate to me to lower the window, open the door, or pay attention.
Right, but if you went to someone’s car while they were in it and banged on it even after they asked you to stop, that’s not going to be considered protected speech. Go bang on your own car window.
In my experience the cop will not stop but just expect compliance.
When I was living in the US (this was a while ago), I often got the impression that there were a lot of subtle but important similarities to russia (happened to have lived there for some time too, we left as soon we had the option to, this was before they invaded Georgia). The superpower exceptionalism, the fake-religiousity, the support for corruption among the plebs.
That being said I have always been pro-America in a pragmatic, “we deal with what we have” sense.
But the US really is becoming like russia. Putin didn’t just appear out of nowhere, it was very much with the support of russian society and russian genocidal imperialism was a thing under Yeltsin too.
Russia escaped 60 years of communist dictatorship. They already had bowing to authoritarians as part of their culture. The US should be better than that. Perhaps it’s naivety about what authoritarianism looks like or how it turns on you if you only support it because it is stomping on perceived enemies.
Russia didn’t escape anything. The breakup of the USSR started due to pressure from occupied countries that were forced to be part of the USSR. In under 10 years, they were back to supporting a KGB dictatorship. 2000 and 2004 victories by putin are generally considered to be legitimate and analysis of subsequent elections do not show falsification/pressure as being a matter for going above 50% support.
But I digress. I would argue even when I was living in the US (Bush II, Obama), there were clear early seeds of support for a “managed democracy” approach. The one that came to mind immediately was lack of voting franchise in Washington DC and another one that I later figured out was regional geographic disenfranchisement.
But I do agree that American polemics about freedom are unconvincing and only serve to enable limitation of freedom.
yup. im sorta old. over 50. My world has turned into what I was told about russia to highlight how bad it is when I was a kid. I really don’t get why every last american is not up in arms about masked, unmarked, paramilitary that is exactly what everyone visualizes about when thinking about life in a fucked up country.
Especially the gubment overreach 2A guys. Like I know they’re mostly conservatives that don’t think non white people have rights, but some of them really seemed like they believed. Every once in a while there’s an overstep that gets some of the more libertarian minded conservatives to buck the movement a little, but they’ve been shockingly quiet about all this really egregious implementation of everything they say they fear.
Legend.
Wow, she’s awesome… She could be AOC’s running mate! First president woman and first vise president woman!
Seriously why not?
While I agree, the why not is age. She has to be 35. But honestly I think the minimum should be changed and a maximum be put in place.
Minimum age: When you can serve in the military or when taxes start coming out of your paycheck. Whichever comes first.
Maximum age: Your term needs to end before you become entitled to start drawing on social security.
AOC’s 2nd term! LOL.
Well she’s 26. So there is that.
Well there’s the 2nd term!
