• whiwake@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    That’s not “peaceful” in the way MOST people think of peaceful. Criminal activity is not “peaceful.”

    And yes but, warm up doesn’t happen when people like you shut down people saying standing around isn’t enough. I get that you don’t like how I’m saying it, and I am very willing to consider a different message if you want to help me find it.

    We are running out of time to do this. I’m hoping November becomes a real hard kick in the face for a lot of people.

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      1 day ago

      For starters, if you want to find your new message, just stop being an asshole to people who are trying to be more engaged and celebrating the steps that people are taking

      What you want to be doing is basically the old improv technique of “Yes, and…”

      "It’s great that you showed up to protest. If you want to do more to help these causes you can…

      Help put up these posters

      Hand out these pamphlets near home Depot

      Use these resources to report ICE sightings

      Make sure you show up to vote

      Boycott these companies

      Show up to the next protest and bring some friends so that they can start helping too

      Etc.

      As far as people not considering criminal activity to be peaceful protest, consider, for example, sit-ins or Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat, etc. I don’t think anyone would consider those to be anything but peaceful, but yet those were criminal acts, trespassing for example. When you provide that sort of context, it helps people open their minds to other ways

      But seriously, start by just not being a disagreeable prick. You’re not helping anyone.

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        1 day ago

        Buddy, you started this disagreement between you and I. Not me. You initialized it. You got triggered at a comment not to you, and attacked. So if anyone needs to stop being an asshole it’s you. You’re just as disagreeable as me.

        Oh, and I’m already doing those things. I’m not the one who needs to be convinced. It’s the people who need their hands held… and if they can’t help themselves by now, they deserve the inevitable.

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          You’re posting on a public forum, every comment you make is directed at everyone who can see it. If you don’t want people inserting themselves into a conversation, take it to their DMs.

          Good for you that you’re doing those things elsewhere, now stop shooting yourself in the foot by being counterproductive and scaring people away on Lemmy.

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            1 day ago

            If you don’t like what people have to say to other users take it to their DMs. You’re being ridiculous.

            Clearly everything you say is perfect you are never ever wrong you are a god among gods and I really really hope that you live in a red state.

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              First your asking for a date now you want me to slide into your DMs to tell you how naughty you are, you really are enjoying this, aren’t you?

              I certainly don’t claim to be perfect, when I’m wrong, which I often am, I’m happy to be corrected.

              But when I see someone being a prick for no damn good reason and hurting causes I care about, I’m gonna say something about it.

              Say something constructive or hold all criticism until 7/12/2178.

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                I’m glad you’re happy to be corrected. Now, maybe stop obsessing and harassing me—someone on the side you claim to be on.

                I’ll shut up when you do.

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                  Not a fan of people shitting on you for how you’re trying to contribute to a movement? Gee, I wonder how that feels.

                  And dude, if you think this is harassment, you’re probably way too thin-skinned for the kind of action you’re trumpeting for, I think you need a little warming-up yourself before you’re ready because the kind of actions you want to see come with consequences you can’t just block or log off of Lemmy to avoid like you can with me.

                  Tell you what, if you agree to knock off being an asshole to other people on our side, then this is the end of it from me, that’s all I’ve wanted from this conversation from the very beginning. But if I log on tomorrow and see your name pop up pulling the same shit in the comment section of the 2nd or 3rd post I open tomorrow like I did today, I’m gonna pick it right back up again. Deal?

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                    24 hours ago

                    I will never stop asking people to do more to help their country. I will never stop pointing out how the current path is not enough. If you have a problem with that then you will either not in the United States or you are a fucking fed. What state do you live in? Are you even here?