• HubertManne@piefed.social
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    nowhere more than in the us. Ugh these flag wavers. If you want pride in the country the country first has to act and function in a way that elicits pride!

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      I think a lot about something I read years ago. It said something like, “Some people love their country the way a child loves a parent. The parent is the smartest and the best and perfect. Some people love their country the way an adult loves a peer. They see the strengths, the potential, but also the weaknesses and problems that need to be addressed.”

      Conservatives are generally children. Driven largely by emotion with a very simple moral framework. Much like you will likely struggle to explain to a toddler that taking the other kid’s toys, screaming constantly, and shitting in the sandbox won’t make a lot of friends, explaining politics to a conservative is likely to be an ordeal. They don’t care. They have feelings and that is their reality.

      It’s also kind of funny how conservatives are the ones who typically say “reality doesn’t care about your feelings”. Everything is projection.

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        The qons are very much into performative bullshit that they think is patriotism. They’ll cry about how someone kneeling while a song plays and a piece of cloth is displayed at a sportsball game hurts “the troops”.

        Then they’ll proudly vote for a party that treats the men and women of the military like a used Kleenex, and embrace a figure like Taco who called them suckers and losers.

        They’ll blather about free speech, then cry about Hollywood airing shows they don’t like. They’ll talk about liberty and The Constitution, but want xtianity to be put on a pedestal.

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            Xtianity

            You know, it’s hilarious how the rabid xtians often get up in arms over that on some more “normie” moderated platforms I am on/have been on.

            They would repeatedly say I violated the TOS and would try to get comments taken down and/or me banned. They would claim this is “offensive” to xtians.

            When this is THEIR abbreviation for Christ, and has been for centuries, FFS. Of course, these are the very same dipshits that get “offended” about things like someone telling them in a secular setting like a shopping mall or big box store or printed on something like a coffee cup: “happy holidays”. These people have zero historical context for fucking anything. For decade upon decade, primarily xtians would tell each other “happy holidays” to cover xmas and New Years.

            And no one got butthurt about it (except for maybe a few fringe anecdotal crazies that I knew, but these people also believed in crazy shit like Marilyn Manson removed a rib to blow himself, or that the profit from arcade games went to the Satanic church. I wish I was kidding. In other words, people fixated on trivial nonsense and conspiracy theories.).

            Then, introduce Faux “News”, and they blow up shorthand like “happy holidays” into a “war on xmas”. Of course, you have the attendant bullshit to go with it where again, their own abbreviation for Christ, X, being used in places like xmas, xtians, and xtianity drives them fucking crazy and they run around trying to cancel (irony) anyone that uses these abbreviations and short hands. I guess everyone now needs to tell these fucking snowflakes “Merry CHRISTmas and Happy New Years” and really emphasize the CHRIST part of that phrase, instead of just “happy holidays”, or else they’ll melt into a puddle, the poor dears. Gosh, if ONLY our secular government and our national culture would cater to xtians just a little fucking more…

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        Man over the years that projection thing just gets more and more. Which is just crazy when they spend most of their time accusing their opponents of things we eventually find out they are actively doing at the time.

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      the country first has to act and function in a way that elicits pride!

      ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you

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        to you. Seriously though. Every time I see a god bless america it annoys me. America be worthy of gods blessing.

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          It annoys me too, as an American. Particularly one who doesn’t believe in the Judeo-Christian god, or any god for that matter.

          It’s just religious chauvinism.

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      I’ve always said I’m happy to have been born where I am and I feel privileged, not pride, for that. Unfortunately I’ve been feeling less and less privileged recently.

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        I’d rather live here than maybe 80-90% of other places, but if I could’ve chosen where I was born, it would not be here. Anywhere with universal healthcare is better.