Can they put forward a candidate who doesn’t want to play an active role in arming a genocide? Is that just too much to ask? Genuinely asking, cause it kind of sounds like that’s what youre trying to say. 2024 election is done, it’s over. This is about what comes next.
Pain, suffering, loss of rights, and death because a bunch of dumb assholes stayed home or voted 3rd party instead of accepting that voting Harris was infinitely more responsible and better for our nation than staying home or voting 3rd party?
No, the pain, suffering loss of rights and death were because the DNC decided that continuing a genocide was more important than winning an election against one of the least popular presidents we’ve ever had.
Maybe next time they should pick a candidate that the people actually want.
Thanks for ignoring my whole comment. If you’re defeatist, you’ve decided that it’s all over, then stay out of the conversation. Your genocide defending commentary is not required or requested. If you’re not done, you’re not defeatist then demand that your political party do better.
Nah kiddo. You cried about religion-based genocide between two nations on the other side of the planet while helping fascism take hold on this side of the planet where you fucking live because you wanted to be righteous about a single fucking issue instead of growing the fuck up and making an adult decision.
It’s working out about as well as we expected it would. The Democrats were loudly told that running a terrible candidate, who supported genocide was a bad idea. They didn’t listen, and here we are.
I feel like getting made at the people who couldn’t stomach voting for a genocidist is the wrong strategy. Getting mad at the people who ran on a platform of genocide seems like a better strategy.
It’s still amazing to me that people blame the voters who couldn’t stomach voting for genocide, rather than getting mad at the people in charge who chose genocide over winning
Yeah, and I didn’t vote for him either, so I don’t see what’s so absurd about that. It’s possible to be against the Democrats for supporting genocide, while also being against Trump for supporting genocide. In fact, I’ve found it easier to just be against genocide no matter who is supporting it.
Lol, I love this retarded blanket statement. I’m in California, numbnuts. Uhh, who did we vote for? I could have written in for a squirrel and the end result would be the same. Don’t try blaming this bullshit on me.
Yes I will actually. People from other states read this crap ya know.
Keep attacking the Dems and telling/supporting people to “vote 3rd party”, while the Republicans actively say they are going to dismantle and destroy this country.
How. Explain how. How did my vote in California, that voted for Kamala, affect others negatively? Please, I’d love to hear your bullshit excuse. Literally all you are doing is another “us vs them” fight that divides us. So please, let’s hear some logic and facts about those my vote personally lost us the election. I’ll wait.
You do realized I could’ve falsely voted HUNDREDS OF TIMES for Kamala and we’d still have lost, right? Like, you know how electoral votes vs popular vote works, right? Cus I really don’t think you do.
When will you dense fucks get that the trolley problem isn’t opt-outable? You’re as complicit as anyone else for allowing Dump to ruin our country over an issue that wasn’t savable to begin with.
You get no high horse on this. In no way did Trump make any mention of not going just as hard as Kamala but you just let it happen anyway.
Congrats. Now instead of a genocide you get… a genocide.
Hey, I’d like to introduce you to shades of gray. I live in California. I in fact, can protest vote. Because guess what? We still majorily vote blue no matter fucking what. So what now? How am I complicit when my state voted for Kamala?
This is such a tired bullshit argument. You just want someone to be angry at. You’re no different than a MAGA with your lack of logic.
You spread the message around the time of the election, you’re complicit in getting others to opt out of voting. One of your votes is meaningless. All of your votes could’ve turned the tide.
Not deciding is a choice.
Don’t worry, you’ll still have to live with the consequences. Congrats!
Again, how exactly did my vote in California, that in the end voted for Kamala, help trump AT ALL.
It didn’t and you’re just full of shit. Literally all that would happen, if let’s say I voted 10000 times illegally, is that Kamala would have still lost. I could have convinced all of California to vote blue and… checks notes Kamala still would have lost, but the popular vote would have been even more depressing.
You just want to be mad at someone instead of any sort of self reflection. You’re a leftist MAGA.
Exactly! These people argue against imagined opinions from their own dogmatic bubble even when the opposite is spelled out in front of them. It’s well beyond and good faith or reason.
Harris would not have eased Israel, she herself said as much.
This comment isn’t about the 2024 election, it’s about the next one. Can the DNC not provide a candidate who refuses to arm a military committing genocide?
I find it funny that so many people feel it’s pointless to vote for parties that represent their views. Don’t lie to yourself that we live in a democracy
How ignorant are you? We vote for someone. They become our representative. That happens in reality. Is money corrupting it? No fucking duh. Big congrats on figuring that out.
But still. We vote. It happens. We still have elections. Sometimes the underdog wins, which means it’s still legitimate. For now.
What we’re experiencing is democracy working, but in a situation where propaganda is winning, which is possible in a democracy. It corrupts democracy.
Our democracy picked Trump because our society is sick.
yeah, zero interest in supporting kamala “keep arming isreal” fucking harris again.
Yeah Trump was definitely better choice for this. Thank God we got Trump eh
Two genocidal candidates -> Fascism
What else did you expect?
Can they put forward a candidate who doesn’t want to play an active role in arming a genocide? Is that just too much to ask? Genuinely asking, cause it kind of sounds like that’s what youre trying to say. 2024 election is done, it’s over. This is about what comes next.
No they won’t oppose genocide. They oppose their own voters instead.
Pain, suffering, loss of rights, and death because a bunch of dumb assholes stayed home or voted 3rd party instead of accepting that voting Harris was infinitely more responsible and better for our nation than staying home or voting 3rd party?
So you’re blaming the voters for not supporting genocide? And you absolve the people who actually support genocide?
No, the pain, suffering loss of rights and death were because the DNC decided that continuing a genocide was more important than winning an election against one of the least popular presidents we’ve ever had.
Maybe next time they should pick a candidate that the people actually want.
Thanks for ignoring my whole comment. If you’re defeatist, you’ve decided that it’s all over, then stay out of the conversation. Your genocide defending commentary is not required or requested. If you’re not done, you’re not defeatist then demand that your political party do better.
Nah kiddo. You cried about religion-based genocide between two nations on the other side of the planet while helping fascism take hold on this side of the planet where you fucking live because you wanted to be righteous about a single fucking issue instead of growing the fuck up and making an adult decision.
Fuck you, scrub.
Zionism is a genocidal colonial ideology. It’s not a religion. Zionists can be jewish, christian, atheist, even muslim, etc. Likewise not all jews are zionist. In fact the vast majority of zionists in USA are christian.
The conflation of judaism with zionism is anti-semitic. It’s no surprise that you’re using this bullshit to promote genocide. That’s the entire point.
There’s really only one religion involved. It’s the religion of fascism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
Thank you for reminding me that everyone here is a fucking child
It’s not everyone.
How’s that working out for you?
Harris could’ve eased Israel. Trump is capitulating 1000%. Gaza will be an ash pile in a year.
Thank fuck you didn’t vote for Harris lmao. What a load of single-issue dogshit.
It’s working out about as well as we expected it would. The Democrats were loudly told that running a terrible candidate, who supported genocide was a bad idea. They didn’t listen, and here we are.
I feel like getting made at the people who couldn’t stomach voting for a genocidist is the wrong strategy. Getting mad at the people who ran on a platform of genocide seems like a better strategy.
When will you people learn “fuck you, accept this candidate or else” doesn’t work? You can’t blackmail and extort your constituents.
That you supported the genocide of Palestine by not voting or voting 3rd party. Thank you for your understanding.
It’s still amazing to me that people blame the voters who couldn’t stomach voting for genocide, rather than getting mad at the people in charge who chose genocide over winning
That is the issue, Trump 100% supports what Israel is doing. The fact people keep attacking the Democrats over this fucking absurd.
Yeah, and I didn’t vote for him either, so I don’t see what’s so absurd about that. It’s possible to be against the Democrats for supporting genocide, while also being against Trump for supporting genocide. In fact, I’ve found it easier to just be against genocide no matter who is supporting it.
Lol, I love this retarded blanket statement. I’m in California, numbnuts. Uhh, who did we vote for? I could have written in for a squirrel and the end result would be the same. Don’t try blaming this bullshit on me.
Yes I will actually. People from other states read this crap ya know.
Keep attacking the Dems and telling/supporting people to “vote 3rd party”, while the Republicans actively say they are going to dismantle and destroy this country.
How. Explain how. How did my vote in California, that voted for Kamala, affect others negatively? Please, I’d love to hear your bullshit excuse. Literally all you are doing is another “us vs them” fight that divides us. So please, let’s hear some logic and facts about those my vote personally lost us the election. I’ll wait.
You do realized I could’ve falsely voted HUNDREDS OF TIMES for Kamala and we’d still have lost, right? Like, you know how electoral votes vs popular vote works, right? Cus I really don’t think you do.
When will you dense fucks get that the trolley problem isn’t opt-outable? You’re as complicit as anyone else for allowing Dump to ruin our country over an issue that wasn’t savable to begin with.
You get no high horse on this. In no way did Trump make any mention of not going just as hard as Kamala but you just let it happen anyway.
Congrats. Now instead of a genocide you get… a genocide.
Conscience good and clear?
Hey, I’d like to introduce you to shades of gray. I live in California. I in fact, can protest vote. Because guess what? We still majorily vote blue no matter fucking what. So what now? How am I complicit when my state voted for Kamala?
This is such a tired bullshit argument. You just want someone to be angry at. You’re no different than a MAGA with your lack of logic.
You spread the message around the time of the election, you’re complicit in getting others to opt out of voting. One of your votes is meaningless. All of your votes could’ve turned the tide.
Not deciding is a choice.
Don’t worry, you’ll still have to live with the consequences. Congrats!
Again, how exactly did my vote in California, that in the end voted for Kamala, help trump AT ALL.
It didn’t and you’re just full of shit. Literally all that would happen, if let’s say I voted 10000 times illegally, is that Kamala would have still lost. I could have convinced all of California to vote blue and… checks notes Kamala still would have lost, but the popular vote would have been even more depressing.
You just want to be mad at someone instead of any sort of self reflection. You’re a leftist MAGA.
That’s just, like, your opinion, man.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
…And the choice you make is to opt out. “Opt out” is one of the choices.
Dude was quoting a Rush song buddy… As much as I hate memes in a serious convo, that’s what that was.
In response to a Big Lebowsky quote. Meming doesn’t relinquish meaning.
You twats aren’t even litterate.
Maybe Facebook is more your speed. Lemmy might be too challenging for you.
2/5, being on lemmy very cool yes, very smart XD.
But seriously, why can’t you read?
Says it all, really.
Exactly! These people argue against imagined opinions from their own dogmatic bubble even when the opposite is spelled out in front of them. It’s well beyond and good faith or reason.
Harris would not have eased Israel, she herself said as much.
This comment isn’t about the 2024 election, it’s about the next one. Can the DNC not provide a candidate who refuses to arm a military committing genocide?
Politics may be too nuanced for you, I guess.
What next one? The vote will either be stolen again or so stacked in the right’s favor that it won’t matter what anyone does.
I mean I mostly agree. The subject of the post is the possible candidate of a 2028 election.
We should just vote 3rd party instead LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Pushing the progressives to ditch the DNC. Then start their own party or lead another would have been a much better plan.
Don’t worry, I vowed to never vote DNC after 2016, so if you catch me voting 3rd party, sleep well knowing it was either that or not voting at all
Hope you like Cheeto Benito and his policy of also “keep arming Israel” plus embracing literal fascism.
Those are both equally pointless exercises. Keep doing you and we’ll keep staring at you like you don’t know what you’re doing, because you don’t.
I find it funny that so many people feel it’s pointless to vote for parties that represent their views. Don’t lie to yourself that we live in a democracy
Exactly this. People who hate facism telling you you have no choice in your vote. Umm… that’s… kinda fascist…
Compromise is an inevitable part of democracy.
How ignorant are you? We vote for someone. They become our representative. That happens in reality. Is money corrupting it? No fucking duh. Big congrats on figuring that out.
But still. We vote. It happens. We still have elections. Sometimes the underdog wins, which means it’s still legitimate. For now.
What we’re experiencing is democracy working, but in a situation where propaganda is winning, which is possible in a democracy. It corrupts democracy.
Our democracy picked Trump because our society is sick.
Btw you can vote in China. Do you think they’re a democracy?