Transgender people have that exact problem right now, even with passports. They effectively cannot prove they are a citizen even with a birth certificate because of Trump’s executive orders.
I only have an enhanced NY state driver’s license. I don’t have Real ID or even a passport. While I’m male and identify as male, I don’t have my birth certificate. If they require something like Real ID, passport, or birth certificate the likelihood of me voting pretty much becomes nil. I don’t drive, rely on public transportation, and would have to go to a county office and hope I can give them the right information to get a copy of my birth certificate.
Why don’t you have a birth certificate? That is something I don’t understand. There must be some sort of records?
In my country, every citizen has a mandatory federal identity card from the age of 16, and many have a passport, too, and our driving licences are at about the same level of security as the ID card. Not being able to establish an identity is a completely foreign concept to me.
it gets lost, or if you move out, you would have to apply to get a real copy of it, and you have to schedule for appointments and you must show valid proof before even get any of these identifications. Driver license/ID dont count as proof apparently,. often times its booked so in advanced much you might not be able to get appts weeks to months later depending on where you are.
Oh and theres no ONLINE application where you just apply and submit, or schedule, it must be inperson.
its intentional, and the govt havnt tried to solve this issue, just like how our taxes are complicated on purpose.
also different agencies for each type of ID. citizenship/naturalized, passport, birth certificate,etc
Transgender people have that exact problem right now, even with passports. They effectively cannot prove they are a citizen even with a birth certificate because of Trump’s executive orders.
I only have an enhanced NY state driver’s license. I don’t have Real ID or even a passport. While I’m male and identify as male, I don’t have my birth certificate. If they require something like Real ID, passport, or birth certificate the likelihood of me voting pretty much becomes nil. I don’t drive, rely on public transportation, and would have to go to a county office and hope I can give them the right information to get a copy of my birth certificate.
Why don’t you have a birth certificate? That is something I don’t understand. There must be some sort of records?
In my country, every citizen has a mandatory federal identity card from the age of 16, and many have a passport, too, and our driving licences are at about the same level of security as the ID card. Not being able to establish an identity is a completely foreign concept to me.
it gets lost, or if you move out, you would have to apply to get a real copy of it, and you have to schedule for appointments and you must show valid proof before even get any of these identifications. Driver license/ID dont count as proof apparently,. often times its booked so in advanced much you might not be able to get appts weeks to months later depending on where you are. Oh and theres no ONLINE application where you just apply and submit, or schedule, it must be inperson. its intentional, and the govt havnt tried to solve this issue, just like how our taxes are complicated on purpose.
also different agencies for each type of ID. citizenship/naturalized, passport, birth certificate,etc